A definition of AS I got from someone with AS

I think this kid I work with might have Asperger's! He interacts socially a lot stranger than most people, like raises his voice and gets tacky and sarcastic at inappropriate times, to tell you the truth, I'm pretty sure he has no clue when it comes to the tone of his voice. And he's got friends and he fits in well with them, but I'm pretty sure they all have Asperger's or something similar, because they all interact differently than most social groups I've ever seen. They're kind of immature for their ages, but still function okay in the real world. He's saving up money for college, though, and trying to move out on his own, I'm so proud of him.

 

He might just be socially inept.

 

I don't know, his cousin has Fragile X Syndrome and autism (though I can't say for sure what specific type), so if it's genetic, it would make sense. He tested negative for Fragile X, but I have no idea if they ever looked into Asperger's or anything.

 

it's more like someone only knowing latin, trying to speak to someone who only knows english, both probably have a very firm grasp of their languages, so there are some things that they get from the other, but there are others, where it's just. eh?

 

I'd give more thought to it if I could. People who speak different languages

I was looking for something perspective-wise

Could you give an example or would it be impossible since we speak different languages?

 

I didn't know what characterized my mother being angry until I was eleven, and then, I realized "oh, her movements become more abrupt, her expression changes just so, her intonation changes just so"

I never figured out how to tell when my first girlfriend was angry.

 

Wow! That is a very powerful example. Thanks-

 

It sounds to me like the internet is an aspie's saving grace.

 

I just broke up with someone with AS...
Well, it was mutual. We're going to try the friendship thing... Down the line, after we both heal.
He definitely feels alone, & almost all his friends are younger than him... He hangs out with a very fringe kinda crowd. His IQ is pretty high, somwhere over 160.
I hope he's doing alright.

 

it helps.

a lot.

 

The fact that Aspergers manifests itself in so many different ways in fact disproves its existence. It has become a catch-all diagnoses for anyone that isn't quite "normal". There used to be a word for people that just didn't fit in, they were called "eccentric" and that was enough. Labeling otherwise functioning members of society with "a form of autism" is extremely detrimental to their mental health and could cause them to become further alienated from "neurotypical" society then they currently are due to their perceived eccentricities. Aspergers is at best a cop-out and at worst an alarming trend in modern psychiatry.

 

it manifests the same way, different people handle it different ways. actually, people like you cause more harm to the AS community than diagnoses do.

usually a diagnosis is a very liberating moment for an aspie because we pretty much all have very procedural systems of thought. "what's wrong with me" getting an answer is VERY satisfying. and then having someone else question it.

having someone who doesn't understand having to figure out what a smile means by empirical process question whether or not this is a disorder, is frustrating, and damaging, and part of the VERY widespread misanthropy for NT's in the AS community.



edit: I should also say, by that VERY logic, epilepsy doesn't exist, but, CLEARLY that does. an epileptic seizure is a seizure where you don't know what caused it, happens more than once, and really, different epileptics have their seizures manifest in a lot of different ways, for me, it is a lot of little seizures, an occasional big bertha that just fucks up my life BAD.

there are some people who have 70 big seizures a day and end up getting lobotomies to treat it.

you have failed at logic.

 

My ex cannot function in society, seriously. He shuts down completely when confronted with too much.
Neither can many of the children I deal with while working in mental health, though many present with different symptoms...
You obviously came to argue/debate... I'm not up for that atm. So, I'll leave it at that.
:cheers2:

 

Also, alzheimers manifests slightly differently in each patient, and schizophrenia (you might notice there are several kinds of schizophrenia)

Downs syndrome is pretty much the same in each kid who has it, but not all kids with downs are the same.

cerebral palsy manifests in VERY different ways, my dad can't be in the cold, but there are some CP patients who can't do up their own buttons, or go to the bathroom on their own

THE BRAIN IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND

AS IS A VERY COMPLICATED DISORDER

YOUR LOGIC IS FAIL

 

As long as treatment is mainly symptomatic, I think that labels can be helpful. The public responds to labels, not symptoms.

 

Boy, you don't have a clue.

 

You deleted your entire post.

 

The problem with the "labels are bad and isolate people" mentality, is that the sort of people with that mentality tend to ignore people with genuine physical and neurological problems out of hand, because they aren't symptomatic with a common, easily classifiable disease. In other words, its usually an excuse to say that people are just 'making shit up'.

 

I liked the old post better.

I also liked auspergers.

it made me feel like you guys were willing to claim us

we're all smart, it's part of the diagnosis.

 

I feel like I used too many words just to say one thing. Everything I need to say is in that one sentence.