"What exactly are people getting so upset about? If you can't let go of what happened 50-60 years ago and NOT TAKE THIS PERSONALLY! Then you're more foolish than I am, for sticking my neck out into a Hall of Knives." So my people should just forget what happend? Why don't you just ask blacks to forget slavery? To forget these things is to make it seem as if it was ok.
Maybe, although I find it amazing that people can ignore facts just to make their opinions seem more valid.
Totally with you on that one.. and I'm on your side with this.. but still I don't like to see this thread surface again.. just read back in it and you'll see why.
Who cares just how many Jews were killed? You admit that millions of them died under the Nazi regime. The Nazis killed at the very least 1,000,000 Jews. This is a war crime, they were disgusting human beings. What exactly is the argument here? The Holocaust did happen. The millions of Jews who died are an attest to that. Only an idiot would argue that the Holocaust didn't happen. The Jewish problem was mentioned in Mein Kampf and later discussed in open forum at the Wannsee conference in 1941. Jews were to be exterminated, according to the transcripts of the conference. The conference is known to have happened, one most notably in Heydrich's journals found in 1945. Exactly what more needs to be said? Jews were hated, seen as a problem ("dark, perverted animals" and arbitrators of the November crime) to the nationalisation of Austria and Germany and were to be dealt with. They were dealt with. It wouldn't matter to me if 25,000,000 or 1,000,000 were slaughtered, they were still put into ghettos and concentration camps and slaughtered. I won't argue any further if you're going to deny facts. If you want to deny artifacts found after the war, and selectively deny certain events from happening, let us just deny that Hitler was part of the '23 beer hall putsch, and let us deny that Hitler ever attended Drexler's German Worker's party as a guest in 1920 and subsequently took over, and while we're at it, let us just deny that Caesar crossed the Rubicon, and that anything was deliberated in the Second Continental congress. Let us just deny that we even exist as a country, or that we were ever made official. I mean, those "meticulously kept" documents of history are all just liberal-crafted falsifications, right?
Yeah, that is foolish. I believed that the entire argument was that pretty much no one died, and it was all made up. It's not. But, to say 6,000,000 died is to go over board. 6M people didn't die. That was pretty obvious by the millions who were still alive in East Russia, Austria, Poland, the Netherlands and Germany after 1945 in census. I think a lot of extreme leftists would rather argue a point that is incredibly incorrect, simply to A:demonize an evil man that everyone already admits is evil or B:to not admit someone on the right is making an intelligent point. That's just as bad as being Jethro in his mountain cabin planning civil war for God.
Yes of course, let's shut our eyes and dream on! Why did you sleep at historyclass? It's too important to ignore. Hope one day you'll find out what you said and you'll cry your eyes blind! Shalom http://www.auschwitz-muzeum.oswiecim.pl/html/eng/start/index.php http://www.remember.org/ http://www.jewishpost.com/holocaust/holocst.htm
I don't see any proof in those pages of 6,000,000 + dead. Could you, maybe, be wrong? Could 6,000,000, maybe, have been a fabrication created? No, couldn't be!
the funny thing about hitler is that he fortold of everything he was going to do (murder the jews, take over europe, enslave the slavs, et cetera) in his book "Mein Kamp(sp)"
Yes, Mein Kampf was pretty obvious in showing what he wanted to do to the Jewish people, but the argument is that 6,000,000+ Jews didn't die. That was a huge embellishment.
The Holocaust did happen, is what I'm saying, but it didn't happen to that many people or on nearly that grand a scale. It was obvious what the Nazis had planned for the Jews in several different ways, Mein Kampf and the Wannsee conference are two we've mentioned, but that's the argument I was presenting. It did happen, but not on the scale people would like you to believe.
I'm saying that 6,000,000 people dead was an overstatement, an embellishment. But, I'm not really in the mood to drudge up this argument again.
What? I don't hate Jews, man. Look, believe what you want to believe. It's almost as if you're trying to grab some emotion from me.
Okay, this website cotains the right information, no doubt about that. And where is your evidence, are you just thinking 6 mln people didn't die or did you do a research? If you're just guessing this whole thread is dead. http://www.nizkor.org
Actually it was in his mouth, either way did the same thing. As for the argument that is going on about the death toll, yes a shit load of people died and yes the majority of them were Jews, but the numbers can never be certain, in fact since the war ended, the Polish government has more then once lowered the official number of those killed in Poland, in fact the years right after the war ended in '45 it was thought 6 million were killed at Auschwitz alone.
it is sick to compare mein kampf with the koran!! maybe you should inform yourself before you write something like that!!
Who believes that everything in life is preordained by God. I hate to say this but if you believe this then what hitler did in his time was part of the plan. We can't pick or chose which ones are gods plans and which ones are not. And as for killing all those so called Jews many were German that didn't fit the picture of Hitler such as brown or black hair or eyes, mentally challenged people and anyone German that stood in his way. It wasn't JUST jews at that time. I believe what he did was wrong, but it is history and can't be changed lets just not make the same mistake again.