Oh yeah I forgot. Maybe I'm high but I thought that the Nazis stopped executing the Jews because the bullets were costing too much. I'm probably wrong, but I swear I heard that somewhere.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words....nobody said they were words of truth. So, posting pictures will be no more than wasted time. If a person disagrees with the jew they should lose thier parental rights. Yep, you are definately 100% jew. I never used the word "nonsense" in any post here. Nor have I called anyone a liar. I have repeatedly ask you for proof of the holohoax, but as yet you have not brought one sliver. Get this straight, okay: IT IS YOUR HOLOCAUST STORY, GIVE SOME EVIDENCE TO IT REALLY HAPPENING!!!! THAT SHOULD NOT BE HARD FOR YOU, THE JOURNALIST, HISTORIAN!!!!!! I have shown over and over that it did not happen. And will continue till you show me it did. Heres a little bit about your Ann Frank lie too. THE "HOLOHOAX" by Professor Revilo P. Oliver November 1984 In "The Enemy of Our Enemies" (pp. 114f., n63) I mentioned an amusing early version of the Jews' Holohoax, concocted before they decided which version of their Big Lie they would vociferously promote to bamboozle the Aryan boobs, whom they both hate and despise. It was Dr. Stefan Szende's "Der letzte Jude aus Polen", published at Zurich in 1944. I did not then know that the Yiddish excretion had been translated into English under a changed title, and I owe to a friend photocopies made from the copy in the Library of Congress. Reproduced on the following pages are the title-page of the book and the pages that describe the marvelous machinery that the wicked Germans used to slay millions of God's Masterpieces. If you know anything about mechanical engineering and electricity, you will enjoy the funny story, so read it for yourself. I really do not know why the Jews decided to discard that tale and substitute the wild fiction about the famous "gas chambers" when they had their American serfs perpetrate the foul murders at Nuremberg to teach the world what happens to the lower animals that disobey the masters Yahweh set over them. It can't be that they thought to make the preposterous story more plausible by replacing electrical impossibilities with chemical impossibilities. Their contempt for the Aryan curs is so great that they never take the trouble to make their hoaxes even superficially plausible. It is simply a racial characteristic of the Jewish mind that it will not take the small amount of care that would be required to make the stories they throw at the goyim at least as believable as fiction published in our magazines of adventure stories. Take, for example, the slop called "Anne Frank's Diary," which is said to make some feeble-minded Aryans snivel at its pathos. It is simply full of the most glaring inconsistencies. In that tale we are told that a band of poor, persecuted Jews had to hide from the terrible Gestapo in a whole series of rooms that formed a secret [!] part of the house, to which the entrance was through a secret door concealed behind a hinged bookcase. And we are expected to believe that those diabolical Germans couldn't guess how many rooms there were in a house of quite moderate size, and did not become curious when the postman on his rounds brought mail for those Jews in hiding, including lessons from a university in which some of them had enrolled for correspondence courses! On one page, we are told that in their pitiable plight the poor Jews are so terrified that they almost smother a sick Jewess, lest her coughs be overheard by the ubiquitous Gestapo, and a few pages later we are told that when those Jews are having a high old time, they not only scream and shout at one another, but even fire off a revolver! And the dread Gestapo, ever prowling about the fold in which God's precious lambs are hiding, can't hear the uproar or even the shots from the revolver! When we read "Anne Frank's Diary" we lose sight of the lie in sheer disgust at the insulting negligence of the Jew who threw such garbage in the face of Aryans. I have mentioned but two of the preposterous internal contradictions; for more, read the stuff (if you can stand it) or see Ditlieb Felderer's Anne Frank's Diary -- a Hoax (Torrance, California, 1979). We are dealing with what is simply a characteristic of the Jewish mentality. Consider, as another example, the silly story, which the murderous "judges" at Nuremberg professed to believe, about how the horrid Germans packed crowds of God's precious darlings into rooms and then exterminated them with the exhaust of the diesel motors of trucks drawn up for that purpose. Now if you or I or any Aryan had been trying to put over a lie like that, and even if we knew somehow that only very stupid people would read it, we would, at the very least, have first ascertained whether it is feasible to asphyxiate anyone with he fumes of diesel motors, which, of course, differ greatly from the gasoline motors of ordinary automobiles, which do produce carbon monoxide in lethal quantities. And I think we would also have gone to a library and read a few issues of German newspapers published during the period in question, just to be sure of the general background of our tale. What is really funny -- almost hilarious -- about the shoddy Jewish hoax is that if its perpetrators had not begrudged the few hours that we would spend in elementary preparation for such a story, they would have found a way to concoct a lie that was plausible on the face of it. See Friedrich P. Berg's clear demonstration of the opportunity the Jews missed; his excellent article, "The Diesel Gas Chambers: Myth Within a Myth," is in the Spring 1984 issue of the "Journal of Historical Review." I suppose we cannot really understand the mental processes of that strange, predatory race, so the crudity of their hoaxes is puzzling. Is it from sheer feckless insolence that they tell such preposterous tales, or do they intentionally make them unbelievable to enforce a lesson that brains of Aryan curs must freeze when their masters speak, and that if a Jew tells an Aryan that two and two makes seven, the animal must at least pretend to believe it? Or do they assume that they have so rotted the Aryan mind with poisonous superstitions that Aryans will actually believe whatever they are told by Yahweh's supermen? Or is it that the Jewish mind cannot reason when it is convulsed by a paroxysm of hatred of our race? The last question is worthy of consideration. The Jews' Talmud was written for Jews and only for Jews, and incidentally contains a provision that nasty Aryans who learn to read it should be killed. Now the Talmud contains (Midrash Rabbah) an ostensibly historical account of the atrocities perpetrated by the diabolical Romans at the time of the Jewish revolt that was led by a christ named Bar Kokhba in 132 of the Christian Era. The Jews who read that Midrash were told, on the authority of named Rabbis, that in the town of Bethar, which had a total area about equivalent to five of our city blocks, the awful Romans slew no less than 800,000,000 (eight hundred million) of God's Chosen; that the precious blood thus shed was so deep in the street that the Romans' horses were immersed to their nostrils; and that the sacred gore became a raging torrent that rushed down forty miles to the Mediterranean, dislodging boulders from its path and staining the waters of the sea crimson for four miles from shore. Page1/2
page 2/2 Now to our minds -- if we are so "anti-Semitic" as to question the word of great Rabbis -- it seems strange that the five square blocks of Bethar housed (in comfort and luxury, we are told) eight times as many Jews as the total population of the entire Roman Empire at that time, and a quick calculation will show that those 800,000,000 godly Jews cannot have been larger than our grasshoppers.(*) But, so far as we can tell, the pious Jews who read their holy book never made that calculation, although they would not have missed the least fraction in computing usury. They evidently believed that story and we can only suppose that their minds went into a spasm of hatred for the accursed goyim and never questioned the arithmetic. (* The calculation is confirmed by other details in the story; for example, the 64,000,000 schoolchildren of Bethar attended numerous schools attached to the 400 synagogues. Given the area of the town, a synagogue cannot have been larger than one of the dolls' houses that are commonly given to little girls today, and since 160,000 children were attached to that synagogue, and the ratio of children to adults in the town's population was 1:11.5, there must have been 1,840,000 adults to attend that synagogue. So many grasshoppers could not fit into such a space, so perhaps the Jews in Bethar were not larger than lice or, at the most, bedbugs.) The tale of Bethar is, of course, just one of the "Holocausts" that the Jews invent from time to time to show how God's Own are persecuted by the lower races, but what makes it significant is that it was invented, not to make stupid Aryans snivel and feel guilty, but to excite other Jews, the educated Jews, who alone could read the Talmud. It suggests that when Jews are in a paroxysm of their hatred of other races, and especially our race, they enter a mental state that we should identify as insanity in one of our own people. That deduction may seem startling to some readers, but how otherwise can they explain a recent manifestation of the Jewish mentality, set forth in the "German Bildzeitung" for 17 May 1984? In an article in that publication, widely circulated in Germany, the Jews, foaming at the mouth in rage that Walter Rauff, a "Nazi" guilty of not having venerated the perfect race that Yahweh specially created to rule all others, had not been tortured and murdered by their American dogs at Nuremberg, and had escaped to live out his life and die a natural death in Chile, screeched that Rauff alone was responsible for the death of 250,000,000 of God's Darlings. Now the figure given, 250,000,000, is considerably more than the total population, men, women, and children, and including Jews and other aliens, that resided in 1939 in all of Western Europe, Germany (including Austria), England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Italy, Spain, Norway, sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, and even Czecho-Slovakia. And if Rauff was himself responsible for shedding the holy ichor in the vein of two hundred and fifty million of God's Own, then, since there are still many other "Nazis" to be hunted down by the Jews and their packs of Aryan hounds, and hundreds, at least, have already been murdered for similar crimes, even a computer would squeal, if it were asked to compute the total number of Yahweh's precious children whom all the Germans exterminated -- and then to compute the number of planets the size of the earth that would have been needed to hold all of them, assuming they were larger than the Jews of Bethar. I submit that no mind that we would regard as sane could have set the number of Rauff's victims at 250,000,000, even if it was in a passion of rage and hatred. If you do not believe that the Jewish mentality operates in ways beyond our comprehension, you must opt for the only alternative, that Jewish contempt for Aryans is indeed infinite. It distresses me to add that for such contempt the Jews have ample justification. The cringing Aryan dogs who rule Germany today are trying to bite all Germans who are intelligent enough to question the Jews' Big Lie, their Holohoax, and dare to say so. For the rulers of Germany, contemptible as they are, one can imagine some apology, but what conceivable excuse can be made for the Canadians? The terrorism of the Canadian Government's vile prosecution of James Keegstra in Alberta was described by John Tyndall in an article reprinted in Liberty Bell, July 1984. In Toronto, Ernst Zündel has been protected from disabling injuries by the police who escort him through mobs of Jews howling for his blood as he is taken to court, where he must stand trial for the heinous crime of doubting what Jews want their dogs to believe. And I learn from David McCalden's Newsletter, that on 6 September the Royal Canadian Mounted Police raided the library of the University of Calgary and confiscated a copy of Dr. Arthur Butz's irrefragable "Hoax of the Twentieth Century." The Aryan serfs of the Canadian Government must be taught that facts are what Jews say they are, and that if a Jew tells an Aryan to wag his tail, the Aryan had better grow a tail in a hurry or suffer the consequences. Such are the actions of the creatures who now govern Canada, a land which, my older readers may remember, once had a population of which the great majority was Anglo-Saxon. As the gentleman who writes under the name of General R. Never reiterates, "A people deserve what they permit." It follows inescapably that the Anglo-Saxons of Canada are responsible for the degradation and squalor in which they now exist. And it is no excuse for them that they tax themselves about $900,000,000 a year to subsidize the Canadian Broadcasting System, which means that every man, woman, and child pays almost $40 a year to have Jewish slime smeared in their faces. I do hope that the pages from Szende's book reproduced above are widely circulated in Canada. They contain a version of the "Holocaust" hoax that the Jews are not currently pushing, but they are nevertheless a tale told by a Jew, which must therefore be believed by Canadians. It will be amusing to watch the Royal Canadian Mounted Police as they raid all the libraries in Canada and burn all the textbooks of electrical engineering. In fact, I am not sure that if Canada is to be purged of the abomination of "anti-Semitism," it will not be necessary to destroy all generating plants and electrical appliances in Canada. So long as white Canadians are permitted to use electricity, some criminally-minded Canadian might experiment with it and come to doubt the story that he is racially obliged to believe. (From http://www.faem.com/oliver/061rpo.htm )
You are the biggest fucking moron I've ever met Warrior. I have proven the Holocaust. The pictures, films, eyewitness accounts, and the testimony of the survivors all prove it. All you have is a bunch of quotes from hateful people. Also, where are your pictures, film, and your eyewitness accounts that it didn't happen? You have none...BECAUSE IT'S A FACT THAT THE HOLOCAUST HAPPEND. I still want to know exactly what you would say to my grandparents if you met them. Well, go head...we're all waiting to hear what you'd say. And I hope you know that the vast majority of people on here know that the Holocaust happend and just see you as an inbred, redneck racist. And yes, you do deserve to AT LEAST have DCF visit your home to get you and your kids into counseling and parenting classes. I have a friend who works as a social worker, and she said that your type of attitude would be considered a form of psychological abuse. The facts are on my side and have been since the liberation of the camps. So take your racist attitude and go fuck yourself with it. Or didn't you know that the majority of Anti-Semite racists are closeted homsexuals? Oh and the fact that you are homophobic just adds to that.
I can't be bothered to read any more of warriors ramblings of an insane man. I just hope he breaks his arm soon as I predicted. He deserves to haunted by the souls of the dead who were exterminated in cold blood.
I still can't figure out why he hasn't been banned. People on here have been banned for less. I hope that one of his kids converts to Judaism. I wonder what he would do...kill them?
For those of you who don't know, Professor Revilo P. Oliver, was a racist who made things up because he was an Anti-Semite. More proof of Warrior's being a racist and an idiot. Anyways, read about Professor Revilo P. Oliver here... http://www.stormfront.org/rpo/ (Stormfront is a White Pride hate group)
Wow, I can't believe your ramblings warrior. The guys you're quoting are known hatemongers. I live in Canada and I remember the controversy around Zundel. The man wasn't being tried for saying the holocaust didn't exist. He was being tried for writing hate literature. He hated everyone who wasn't anglo-saxon. We draw the line in canada at a certain point. You said the RCMP protected him. lol Of course in civilised countries you don't let people in police custody get harmed. We have never liked hategroups in canada and as for your anglo saxon comparison of canada get your facts straight Canada is one of the most racially diverse nations in the world. We protect all those races. If you asked a candian who they had problems with they'd tell you the french. You sound like so many americans I've talked to who think canadians are all white. That's why we don't have crime. (sarcasm) Why don't you read the accounts of the SS officers you can read some in the Rise and Fall of The Third Reich. It was written by a man of german decent a protestant and was a journalist in Germany before the nazi regime and during. He is also a historian and was one of the selected few to look at the captured nazi documents. You can even see the zykon b deliveries and the letters from the german firms for contracts to build the chambers and supply the camps. The historians at the time placed 6000 jews a day in auswitchz alone but the Major Hoess in charge boasted 16,000. This isn't by jews who survived, this is by officers involved. Who cares if it was 1 million or 6 million killed, for humans to do this to each other is atrocious and acounts for a holocaust. No wonder you get the people of the Jewish faith riled how would you feel if your entire town was wiped out for being american and people told you that you were a liar and it didn't happen because the survivors who lived were lying and you didn't have pictures of your family being burned. I'm sure you'd be quite agressive too. Because you're quite agressive and vehement in your beliefs without that happening to you.
Thank you Redfox. I could also kiss you. I find it out that Warrior consistantly refuses to tell us what he would say to my grandparents. It just goes to show that Warrior, like all bigots, is a coward. Warrior...the fact that the Holocaust happend has been proven over and over again. I don't need to reprove them (although I have several times). What I do need to do is show the world that people like you who deny the facts about things and then use hate and myth to make themselves look correct are idiots...oh wait, you're doing that for me.
The Silky Way: I'm kinda hoping you're not being serious here. I'm from the Netherlands and lived in Germany for three years during the cold war because of my dad's work.. so maybe this is a little more real here and is the education here a little more based on european history.. BUT.. jews were not shot (they were sometimes.. but..). Most of them were gassed in 'concentrationcamps'.. also a lot died because of the harsh conditions in 'workcamps'. These camps excisted throughout eastern europe and at least one big camp in my country. Not only Jews (they had to wear a yellow davidstar on their clothes) were brought here, but also homosexuals (they had to wear a pink triangle I think) and people of the resistance. Warrior: As for people (read: warrior) who are talking about the 'holohoax': get your uneducated but over here to see the remains of the camps, the pictures, the letters, the graves and talk to the people who lived during that time. Warrior and the rest of the Hipforums: Freedom of speech is one thing, but kicking and screaming against anything that's non-white and non-ariër (sp)? is just insane. And as for all the 'specialists' you quote: just because someone places an article somewhere doesn't mean it's the truth.. I can find you articles on how dolphins secretly rule the world if you want.. your 'prove' is just unbelievable, because your mind is clearly blurred (and the fact that you admit to being a rascist, which doesn't help having an openminded discussion about scientific facts). I personally think most people on Hipforums are openminded and willing to discuss problems like black/white issues, IQ-test, Hitler and the second world war (die endlösung) in general.. and we all have our own point of view. But as soon as someone gets on his/her soapbox screeming about wanting to be with his own race and nothing else, then I'd like to suggest that you follow your own Utopia: leave the Hipforums, because there are Jews, Black, Hispanics and all other kinds of people here.. and they always will be here. Go seek some 'white power' forum and spill your gut there. We'd like to have a discussion without such extreme prejudice. [/rant] Fellow hipforumposters: In the above bit I was speaking in 'we' to warrior.. I'm sorry if this doesn't reflect your meaning, feel free to correct me. This guy just realllly get's on my nerve! You might want to read other statements of his in this thread as well, if you'd like to understand my issue better: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12492
Thank you Velvet. Yet another person I could kiss. Warrior tries to sound smart, but uses articles from hate groups. He ignores the pictures, film, etc that prove that the Holocaust really happend. He's blinded by hate.
I stated from the get go that I am racist, so any attempt by you to prove me as such is foolish. You did find your link to Pro. Oliver through Stormfront. He didn't place that information there, it was placed by one of the members of Stormfront. This is the introduction on that page: [size=+3]The Revilo P. Oliver Collection[/size] ABOUT THE AUTHOR... The late Dr. Revilo Pendleton Oliver, Professor of Classics at the University of Illinois for 32 years, was a scholar of international distinction who wrote articles in four languages for the most prestigious academic publications in the United States and Europe. His first book was a copiously annotated translation from the Sanskrit (Mrcchakatika, the Little Clay Cart, Urbana, 1938). During World War II, Dr. Oliver was Director of Research in a highly secret agency of the War Department, and was cited for outstanding service to his country. One of the very few academicians outspoken in his opposition to the progressive defacement of our civilization, Dr. Oliver insisted that the fate of his countrymen hangs on their willingness to subordinate their doctrinal differences to the tough but idealistic solidarity which is the prerequisite for the resurgence of European-Americans. Very educated man, wouldn't you say? Read the 2nd paragraph again. Seems the man was also very informed about goings on in WWII. BTW, thanks for the link. I had never seen it before.
If they were all creamated how could thier be graves? All I have ask for here is true evidence that the holohoax happened. No one is showing actual proof. Pictures, letters and self-serving testimonies are not proof. Scientificly the holohoax has been disproven. Please upload a couple of these letters and I will investigate them. I don't like being ostrasized for my beliefs, but am willing to be in defense of what I perceive to be the truth. If there is another truth and I am missing it, I will gladly accept it if you would just show it to me.
Not all of them were cremated. And pics, films, and testimony from not only survivors and their liberators but also from former Nazis who now regret what happend is proof. The fact is that the Holocaust happend. It's one thing to have an opinion, but a truly educated person KNOWS that an opinion that isn't based in fact is just going to be seen as the utterings of an idiot. My grandparents are now also wondering what someone like you would say to them if you met them....
Warrior acts as if the Holocaust could only had happened only if people were killed one way, only if people were buried one way, and it only could have happened in Germany. The Germans were resourceful. They had MANY ways of killing. They came up with Zyclon B after it was determined that 1)it was 10 times cheaper "per cattle kill" (which is what they called the Jews, Poles and Gypsies) than bullets, and 2)too many people were left alive with Carbon Monoxide and Carbon Monoxide took "Too long" to kill people quickly enough. Electical shock was also "too expensive" and wasn't always as effective, and wasn't suitable for mass amounts of people at one time. It took them too damn long to kill one person at a time, so they got more efficient at killing innocents as the war went on. That is why there are different stories (all of them correct) of how people were killed in camps. There were also "work camps" where men were housed to build roads and buildings. These Jewish men were often better fed and weren't routinely killed in mass slaughters, as in the Death Camps. The Germans also thought they could throw suspicion off of themselves and keep their own people in the dark, by placing most of the the Death Camps OUTSIDE of Germany. None of Warriors comments does ANYTHING to disprove the TRUTH of the Holocaust. He is like a blind man, feeling the trunk of an elephant, insisting that it is a snake and denying that elephants exist. There were SO MANY bodies in some of these camps that they were burned separately, burned in pits, and just bulldozed into shallow pits and buried. That is why there are graves as well as ash pits. Also, the Nazis abandoned the camps just before the Allies got there, and there were bodies EVERYWHERE, so many were also bulldozed into pits then.
Great facts Maggie, and what of holocaust survivors, did they make all of that up? The facts all point to what really happened, there are concentration camps all over Europe, even in Spain due to Francos deal with Hitler to spare the country. I wonder how warrior would feel if he looked at his family tree and saw that some of his ugly ass relatives were murdered in cold blood? I don't really believe in free speach, i think warrior should be banished and left to post in some cousin fucker forum where they might actually think he's the shit, although he makes a great punching bag........
I suppose i should have put LOL behind my statement concerning creamation, as it was meant to be ironic and not taken seriously. Would you please be so kind as to give me a link to these letters from the Nazis you mention? Very true, vinceetc. From Maggie Sugar: Perhaps I am stupid, as so many here claim, but simple reasoning tends to reinforce the logic that Zyclon-B could not be cheaper than a bullet, as you say, when, in order to use the zyclon-B the prisoners were first needed to be transported to a very large camp - which had to be built, fed, clothed, housed, guarded, etc., before the actual killing. One nickle, one bullet, leave them in the street. Not meaning to sound cold in that assessment, but that would be so much easier, more cost effective, and more consistant with a plan to destroy an entire group of people. It has always worked well in other exterminations throughout history. When Linen slaughtered 10m Christians he didn't bother with camps, etc. This has been true in every act of extermination. Perhaps I am as stupid as some claim. But I just can't get it through this thick skull that a man known by the world as a genius would be so stupid as to put together a plan that was so, well....stupid.