A Country We Should Have Kept a Closer Eye On.

No, I find you quite sane as well.

 

North Korea doesn't have the technology right now to carry out a full scale missile attack on the United States. Not to mention we have a very sophisticated missile defense system guarding our borders. I would expect China and Japan to react to these missile tests as a hostile threat and they will deal with North Korea themselves.

 

Wish he would tell me how they would not be speaking German right now with out us.

As for Germany attacking the US after he took over Europe well lets see we took on a two front war and did pretty well, Germany would have had to crossed a large body of water to get to us and that would have lessoned supply lines to them. We did have nukes and that does tend to make one second guess thier plans although Germany too was on the lines of thier own. Had we sat back, not supplied ships, planes, guns and men to the Eurpoean problem we could have used that to build up defense for our own boarder.

 

Japan; probably but they lack resources.
China; doubtly. I would not be amazed if they even would be behind things.

 

I agree with your assessment. This was a very clear threat, not an act of war. The date was picked for a reason.


Only the Taepodong 2 failed, but that type of missile still has the capacity to hit the US.

 

Our attitudes become tainted when countries we died for (not knowing yours but you implied one from Europe) bash us every chance you get but had no trouble taking our help. Like I said we should have never helped any one but ourselves.

 

People bash America because of that attitude. Our generation has fuck to do with the war. Hey, even I do have some German friends now and I live in a former occupied area.
What we do now is look at the present and the future. Maybe you should try that as well and stop putting us in a lapdog position. People do not like to be treated like that.

 

China isn't threatened so much by North Korea, although they do recognise the threat to stability.

Japan is clearly threatened, as the missiles have flown across their territory. Japan doesn't trade much with North Korea, has no power to impose sanctions, and has no military to speak of.

We do have a sophisticated missile defense system, but shooting it down isn't 100%. It's more like 80%, which is not great odds.

 

I don't see why the US should demand favors because of a 60 year old war.

We had a humanitarian reason for fighting nazis and that should be the forefront of US foreign policy.

The real reasons behind our involvement in world war 2 were more complex then just our humanitarian concerns, but in the end we did help to destroy nazi's.

Ducth put up a pretty good fight all things considered. But I agree we should look into the future, like North Korea's developing ICBM's not dwell on who we can demand pay us respect.

Respects overrated anyway.

 

Others want selective US help, when they are in a corner they want us to help, when we think we are doing the right thing and mess up and yes the US has seriously fucked up those same countries forget about our past and only want to dwell on the mistakes. All I say is we never should have helped or step into any others battles at all. It did nothing but start a negative trend and if you protect one group you piss off another and so on. You mind your own business and the most that can happen is they are mad you did not help but cant say you went against them. There should be no doubt the US above all looked beyond the issues in Germany as when they needed help due to the Berlin wall who was it that air dropped food and supplies day in day out around the clock? If we did not let that get behind us we would have done nothing.

I guess it just bugs me that all that is ever talked about is the bad the US has done and the good we have done is swept under the carpet yet the terrible actions done to the US is washed out and not just by other countries even our own history books seem to play into this now by only talking about the 2 nukes we dropped but not talking about what was done to us and also no mention of the warnings that were dropped over the sites prior to the bombs being dropped. Wow that was a long sentence.

 

Exactly. The US needs to solve it's own problems. A lot of this demonizing of other countries is a cover up for the increasing lack of freedom and move toward fascism in the US. Besides, the US has more weapons of mass destruction than all other countries put together, that it spends a fortune every year maintaining-that money could be put to much better use in many other ways.

 

Oh Lodui you wet behind the ears presumptuous and un worldly-experienced twit. You are so far from any clue you'd need the entire solution just to get one in the first place.

Sorry for your pathetic herd mentality response, but Ive never visited infowars let alone make any reference to it in all the time Ive posted on these boards. Moreover, Ive probably spent more years in firsthand on the ground foreign experience with significant analytical reading and personal writing than you have existed on this planet.

Your attempts at presenting yourself - with unlikely more than a handful of years of any legitimate political consciousness under your belt - as possessing any understanding of the agendas and actors behind domestic policy, let alone the practical dynamics of US foreign policy is most laughable indeed.

Ive held my tongue throughout most of your blatantly ignorant and ill informed postings in this forum until now but the sum total of your drivel has really begun to the pollute the place.

 

The world is in unity that the US government is evil.

 

Our foreign policy should focus on 1. Humanitarianism, 2. Defense. North Koreas a concern on both of those fronts.

I didn't fight in World War 2, so I don't expect flowers. I also don't really care about some other peoples snooty attitudes toward the US. If we keep those two priorities in mind, it doesn't matter.

If someone doesn't like you unless you appoligize for your nationality, then they aren't worth talking to. Patritoism is a celebration of where your parents fucked. It's not nessecarily bad if it's kept in check, but people in North Korea deserve as least some of the consideration of our foreign policy as people in the US.

 

not in the literal sense.

 

but then you have have to face Germany alone without the conquered allies.

 

You're very aggressive online, but your words are blank and your intentions are dubious. Hostile words don't mean you have a point. You haven't even raised a thought in this thread other then a personal attack on me and a
a veiled attack on US policy which you disagree with so you say the US should not be concerned with a Nuclear Korean peninsula.

You're being old as hell doesn't mean you have any perspective on anything. You're just more set in your insane hate filled conspiracy babble.

I'm not going to spend my day trading insults with you.

 

Shouldn't you wearing a skirt before you cheerlead?

BBQ doesn't start for another hour.

 

Ha ha... that was good.

 

Always love how the interventionist apologists try desperately to present US interventionism in WWII as in any way consistent in principle with the manifold overt and covert interventions and subversions of other sovereign nations (with impositions and maintenance of some of the most undemocratic and brutal regimes in the modern era) Washington has perpetrated since.

Newsflash for the misinformed brigade, but the distinctions between the operative principles of:

1. defensive war against a state in active execution of war of aggression against other sovereign states and that of

2. self-presumed right and responsibility of offensive intervention against states which neither can nor have attacked or threatened our soil in any way are enormous.

Every military industrial complex and MNC-serving act of US aggression since WWII falls into the latter camp and has nothing whatsoever to do with any magnanimous intention of "democratisation" or "liberation" to wit the standard Pentagon-crafted slogans and soundbites (drummed repeatedly into the largely dumbed down, uncritical and inattentive minds of the majority of US citizens by a compliant and collusionist corporate owned media and press) have long managed to convince said populace.

From the disingenuous and (in truth) wholly self-applicable "domino theory" of our Trotskyite governing institutions and leaders through to the present PNAC agenda, the consistency of intended unilateralist militant expansionism, client-state subjugation and empire is perfectly transparent to those who bother to read more than the tv guide.