A Conclusion On What Acid Does To Your Mind

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by myCHAINisGUCCI, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    The concept of being able to compact extremely vast and intricate systems of human experience down into simple super concise 'metaphors' seems to me to be why sacred geometry exists.
     
  2. Peter Popper

    Peter Popper Tripper

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    thats fucking amazing man. i feel the same way. you know i mentioned that i felt amost superioer to other "mere humans' after taking lsd, and being in this "supreme conscousness" and people on this forum gave me shit about it. why should i have to look fucking down on myself because of them? why cant i have a little bit of that fucking confidence without other people bringing you down, its just life man.
     
  3. PlacidPete

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    i like you peter, your a cool dude.
     
  4. mara-aum

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    amen brother!

    that's because we live in a society where "polite" and "political correctness" outweigh the truth. people have taken being humble to an extreme of being self effacing. people think if they put each other & themselves down by saying "we are all stupid...humans are all equally ignorant" somehow that elevates them spiritually. personally i feel like "the system, illuminati -whatever you want to call it" wants us to all feel dumb and average...because if people realized the gods they really were they wouldn't be so easy to control. so instead they feed us with the delusion that in order to be "nice" you must feel that you & everyone else is dumb...because if you call yourself wise, holy etc then they label you delusional....really its the masses that are delusional.
     
  5. PsychMyke

    PsychMyke Senior Member

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    Dude i dont know why people give you shit. I think I'm superior in contrast to alot of people. Not in an elitist sort of fashion, I don't even think I'm neccesarily smarter than them. I'm just more aware.

    Ignorance and complacency is a plague and one of man's many forms of hubris. I can't stand people because they live their lives in a tunnel blocking out the entire universe. On a day to day basis I walk around my campus overhearing conversation's like, "OMG so tommy was dancing with Ruth at that keger and liiikkee...ohhh my god...who the fuck does she think she is...like...oh my god, everyone knows Tommy is miine, i'm like completely obseesed with him...and then likkkeee oh my god....Carrie went up to her and was like girl your a bitch and slapped her...and then she called her a **** and shit likkeee totally hit the fan." It fucking DESTROYS me dude, i hate that shit. How can people live their lives so benighted when others are getting slaughtered all across the globe. Mass genocide, Wars for oil, world hunger, anti-semitism, hate, disease, global warming, religious bullshit, political corruption, media induced subjugation of the mind...not one member of the general public is knowledgable to the fact that their life is going to end someday and they will have wasted away surviving on such stupidity. And what's even worse is that no one is aware of all the structures and establishments that have been set up to blind them from that truth. I could keep going but it would be the length of a novel by the time i finished, lol.
     
  6. mara-aum

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    if you wrote it, i would read it--that was AWESOME! the whole "like.oh my god" rant just about made me pee my pants!

    seriously though--you are ABSOLUTELY right!
     
  7. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    I dont think is about saying we are all stupid, but saying "we are all the same" and that's one of the most confident things a person can say, you dont need to feel better than anyone, to value yourself as a person. I feel like the whole compare and contrast thing can be healthy if you are doing it to learn more about yourself and others, but too much of it just for the purpose of determining who's superior or not, is just an act of insecurity.
    I find it that being humble is simply about being what you are. I'm a firm believer that when you are something, anything, you dont have the need to be telling people "I'm smart, I'm good, I'm kind, I'm whatever", because what you are comes through in your actions and words, without the need to tell anyone and that to me is true confidence.
    You can feel like you are better or superior than anyone, but what does it matter? How are you letting that feeling affect you? Are you just telling yourself I'm better than "them" (and there is no them)? Or are you using your superior skills and doing something with it?
     
  8. PsychMyke

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    ^Ignorance is an unacceptable and unfortunate human attribute. It's a flaw, a quirk in evolution. Anyone can gain enlightenment and awareness; you dont need LSD. All you need is to open a book and read. But people would rather pound on a playstation controller orr watch MTV on the idiot box. I consider myself superior to these close minded people, solely because they're close minded. I don't show it, I think every person has some good in them, and I'm most certainly not arrogant about it. I dont think I'm smarter either, i just feel like i have the knowledge to realize how to live fully and fruitfully without the aid of electronic stimulation 24/7...and it's a much more fulfilling way to live.
     
  9. mara-aum

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    i think psychemyke answered perfectly right below your post. you seem to think that because we notice that we are of a different vibration than most that we are "superior" --that is an error in judgement. what we are saying is that we notice the vibration we are at compared with others, where others seek god in externals, we find the god experience within. that's all. you are putting ego based assuptions on it--not us. we are just stating how WE feel and operate in relation to others. it is exactly as you say...we look at others to learn about ourselves. on this thread we have tried to share that with each other--OUR experience--that's it....no puffed up ego tricks...not gloating....just observing. THAT'S IT.

    about everyone being the same....in soul stuff maybe...but in the human game (which i hate to break it you, we are IN the human game--its the whole reason you are alive so you might as well play it) people are very different from one another--its one of the most remarkable thing about our species. there are very different vibrations--not better--different.

    if lsd wasn't a catalyst for "different" why would we do it? notice how most trippers are "different" than most--its the whole POINT.
     
  10. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Wow.
    So, talking about how you are made sick by people who dont live life the way you see fit is not egotistical? Mara since you so enthusiastically agree with Mykes observation and condemnation, I think you may want to reunderstand what you just wrote. You are avoiding the egotistical nature of your posts here, this is very obvious. No need to try and cover it up with words like vibration because moving at a different rate has nothing to do with looking down on those who are not blessed with your level of divine perception. True love excludes no human family if you ask me. But you didnt...
    We are all guilty of this, everyone of us has an ego and I bet everyone of us who posts here has made the same remarks. But dont beat around the bush, it is what it is, self love, ego gratification.
    namaste
     
  11. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Im sorry to tear apart your post Mara, but seriously, what is this supposed to mean? This, now correct me if Im wrong, to me, reads as "I want to take LSD to be a rebel and stand out as a unique individual!" Yet, in reality, every person who tries LSD does it for quite exactly the same reason, altered consciousness. So in the very act of taking the drug, you instantly join millions of other people and become the same thing, a person on drugs. And in my obersvation, I have to go on record here and state that the majority of people I've tripped with, and people who have tripped that I've met, are just regular, happy people, trying to make it in the world and raising families or minding their own business, just like everyone else.
    All of this 'us and them' mentality you are posting here is why your post is being called out on, your ego was attacked and its defending itself by covering reality with a haze of illusion.
    Dont mean to be rude or make you feel bad, but this is what is happening here. When you take a look externally and say "They are different, I see more than them" while it may be true, is still the mind thinking a thought, a self reassurance that you are worth something more than just taking from the planet whatever you need and dying right back into it.
     
  12. PsychMyke

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    Hey man, i dont think im better than anyone in regards to how your describing superiority. I just meant that some peopel are more aware than others. You, clearly, are much more aware than most others. This fact is made obiovus by your beautiful and poetic posts. That's why i said superior but not elitist. I never said i was better than anyone. I think the opposite, i'm more aware but that doesnt mean I'm divine or anything. I think im a useless, suicidal piece of shit. I find love in everyone. It's not like i walk around and judge people. I was just saying, in a general sort of way, that i dont like the attribute of ignorance that is common amongst our secies. I wasn't condemning anyone. Everybody has something good to contribute to the world. I was merely suggesting that their ways of living are superficial and that they arnt experiencing the true fruits of the human experience. I think you came down a little hard Mara. Judging by here posts, she seems like a beautiful, loving soul. She's definitely nmot what comes to mind when i think of a self absorbed dickhead locked in an ego trip. I think you may have taken my post the wrong way.

    Just a comment on your above post...I agree with you, not all trippers are heavy philosophers. Most poeple i know dont trip for any other reasons than recreation. I trip cause it's something i love to do. It's the greatest feeling in the world and because it gives me solace to know exactly who i am and remove all self doubt.

    I just dont want you to think im some kind of conceded asshole cause of my last few posts...because that's not at all the notion i was trying to get across.
     
  13. PlacidPete

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    I would have to agree with that.
    You have to be able to accept people unconditionally. You must look at the blonde bimbo bambling about nothing and simply smile, in your mind, and move on. Don't let frustration and disbelief get in the way of your fulfilment.
     
  14. killuminati

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    true..
    you've just gotta have faith in karma, and walk your path.
     
  15. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Myke, I agree my post was a bit hash. But I dont mean to come down on her and make her look foolish, Im just pointing out that when a person looks around and says that they have more awareness, this is only related to the ego, and being that Mara who is a good friend of mine is on the path of enlightenment, I thought I would point out the faults in what she is saying. I dont mean to sound rude, but I do mean to make a point. This isnt exactly arrogance on either of your parts, but it is related to ego and in fact is only egotistical in its very nature. We all realize that many of the human population is dumbed down and very many of us are unaware of our own situation. But it's not up to us to decide that another person's life is not as meaningful as our own, because this opinion only resides in the mind and is possibly not going to be shared by the person receiving the projection of our thought.

    I just want to be very clear that neither you nor Mara are wrong in your views, many people are sadly so wrapped up in instant gratification and material obessions that they miss out on the more subtle beauty of the blessing of the gift of life, I completley agree and like I said, I've made the same remarks regarding humanity many times. But when I say something like that I feel bad, because I have much empathy for the people who are unaware. It makes me sad, and only in extreme cases makes me repulsed. But I am trying not to look at our family in this light because in my opinion, we all posess the same potential to open our mind's eye and I believe that every one of us will keep getting higher until we are equal. We are just at different places, some further along the game of life than others, but in the end we truly are the same thing. Being aware is a wonderful blessing, but make no mistake about it, judging other's lifestyles against the backdrop of our own is most definitley an action rooted in the ego wether its true or not. This is the only point I was disagreeing with in Mara's post, her claiming that this obersvation has nothing to do with ego is incorrect, because it is only when you seperate yourself from the oneness that you can make such statements, and though I guess you dont believe in the oneness of the soul Myke, Im pretty sure Mara does, at least from what she's told me.
    I hope I dont make any of you feel bad by my own egotiscial observation and the need to defend my own egotistical post, you know I have nothing but love for all of you together.
    Namaste
     
  16. PsychMyke

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    im sorry man, but accepting people unconditionally for some reason is exactly why our history is so fucked up...we let ourself become slaves to televiosion set by accpeting unconditionally. Like i said, i dont hate the blonde bimbo. I just think everyone has the potential to do something great and by drowning these potentials we are spoiling our meaning and purpose of living. Im not say "FUCK THOSE PEOPLE THEY SUCK I HOPE THEY ALL DIEEEE". Im merely saying that they should be spending their time trying to make the world a better place. I cant just accept mental slavery and ignorance, I want the world to be a utopia, a place where i can be proud to raise my kids. Why cant i hope for change? Change starts from yourself and moves on, and i've already changed. I used to be like those people to, which is why i dont hate them. Now it's my duty to show others that there is a more fruitful way to live...because i already feel fulfilled to some extent.
     
  17. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    I see where you are coming from.
    It is written in Vedic literature that some men choose the external world, to share the gift of life and bring instant happyness and change to others, and some men choose the solitude of personal growth and meditation, and as long as both men remain activie in their dharma, they are both on the right path. The lonesome saint makes himself better in order to affect the energy of the world and to help others in the future, and the saint who seeks companions in the relative world of nature betters himself by helping others.
    Both men are doing the right thing, but the two styles clash against each other at times.
    Namaste
     
  18. PsychMyke

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    But i dont really consider myself egotistical. I dont think i was born predisposed to me "more aware", i just think ive taken alot of psychedelic drugs. Not every one has eatin hundreds of acid tabs. Obviously im going to be 'more aware' whether i like it or not, i dont even think i needed the acid. Part of it stems from my relentless studying on random matters that interst me. But LSD put me on that "knowledge is power" path. All people need is a book, the possibilites are endless.

    However, i dont agree with yuo in that we will all end up the same path eventually. I've met older people 30'-40's that are equally as ignorant and materialistic. Who work these horrible jobs that they hate to pull in 6 figures so they can have a new sports car and a pretty wife who never achieve happiness. Do i blame them, hell no! Aesthetically these things seem very appealing. Howver LSD showed me that as long as you have love and your passions, you can live the life of a sultan...you dont need money or anything like that. I want to show others these things to. because People dont realize this until they are 65 and it's too late, or when 3/4's of their lives have already been squandered chasing "the american dream".

    btw this post was meant to be a continuation of my previous one.

    LSD showed me these things and changed my life...and i feel like its a feeling everyone should experience. But seeing as not EVERYONE is going to take a bunch of LSD, my only means of communication is my gift of speech and my linguistic abilities: which i weild like a mutha fuckin sword :-D
     
  19. mara-aum

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    John the Baptist didn’t just notice that the masses were missing the point on life and sit by and do nothing—he screamed in town square like a raving lunatic before they chopped his head off. Jesus wandered with an entourage and spoke to thousands trying to spread the word (we all know what that got him, but regardless). He’s the same guy that turned tables topsy turvey in the temple and raised a ruckus because he was disgusted at the trade in a holy place. Revolutionaries of the species notice where their peers are asleep and do what they can to wake them up…but before you can make a change, you must first be aware at what needs changing.



    Was it psychemyke that said earlier about wars in the world, global warming etc?

    these things are causing real and immanent destruction of an environment I happen to like incarnating in. do I get pissed when I see litter, redundant waste—yes. I do. If that’s my ego, then fine—I need an ego to stay alive here. My fault isn’t that I like to pat myself on the back…its that I like being alive—and I understand how the dumbing down of the masses will cut that life short—for us all.
     
  20. mara-aum

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    maybe it reads that way to you but it was not what i meant. i meant that i don't want to be a dumb boob numbed into denial by alcohol and television. i choose to cast my nets into the sea of the collective. THAT'S what i meant.
     

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