A Better World

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Space_Trippin, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. Space_Trippin

    Space_Trippin Banned

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    why is everyone so screwed up?
     
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  2. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    Because they haven't untwisted themselves.
     
  3. Sitka

    Sitka viajera

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    My world is pretty good, baby.

    Although I have been accused of being screwed up.
     
  4. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    its not "the world", its us.
    its us because we've taught ourselves and each other
    to hate logic, consideration and honesty.

    our priorities statistically create what we somewhat lazily and ignorantly refer to as "the world".
    arrogantly too, because "the world" is a presumption that human social interaction,
    is the biggest most important thing in all the universe,
    which is really utter and complete nonsense.

    the commonness of the obsession with epicness,
    certainly screws a great many things up.

    it cannot defeat diversity being the nature of the universe,
    but it does encourage people to beat their heads against it,
    resulting generally in a great deal of self inflicted injury.

    we could certainly be doing a lot less to injure ourselves and our surroundings.

    we don't do everything wrong, but we certainly do more things wrong then we need to.
    none of which are in our 'nature'.
    all of which are learned behavior.

    they are perpetuated to make nations possible.
    and there are some good things that nations can do.
    along of course, with a great many not so good ones.

    no infrastructure would exist without organized effort
    without infrastructure, even survival would take a great deal more of our time and effort.

    but we could be doing infrastructure in ways far less harmful then we are familiar with.

    this is a literal answer
    one which i suspect,
    more people would prefur mutual hand wringing
    to consideration, logic,
    and what the honest combinaiton there of,
    might actually do about it.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It just looks like that from your angle.
     
  6. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    Because the attributes that best allow us to survive as individuals in order pass on our genetic material don't always correspond with attributes that allow us to function in groups of this size to the benefit of all.
     
  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    there is no everyone. there might be some things that are shared by a lot of people.
    and a lot of them might be quit a bit illogical or even harmful.
    but you can always try to be an example of what you think might be a better way.
    and you will probably seem to be mostly ignored, and might even be martyred,
    but this is how social change, which is statistical, happens.
     
  8. Space_Trippin

    Space_Trippin Banned

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    um

    Its not just my angle... even tho I see it. It is reality
     
  9. Ash Ketchum

    Ash Ketchum Members

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    Not everyone is good a catching Pokemon straight away.
     
  10. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the one word answer is culture. more specifically a dominant culture that teaches us to see everything in relation to ourselves and to hate any kind of logic that looks beyond doing so, and then deny that we screw ourselves in the ass, collectively and individually by doing so. and i'm not talking about some hereafter, but the absolutely here and now. and then everyone (meaning those who have gotten conned into buying into it) whines; "why is the universe picking on me?"

    then you've got the people who want everything to stay as screwed up as they can get away with keeping it, because they're scared shitless the world would end if the didn't have enough to bitch about.

    so really, if you look honestly beyond what we're told to expect, its really pretty simple.
    and not only that, but we're only as stuck in it as we keep convincing ourselves and each other that we are.

    i'm not saying we can magically be or have anything and everything we want. things just work the way they do.
    but we really don't need to keep messing them up more then they already are,
    because of its being what and how we are familiar with doing so.

    in short, humans don't have to hate logic, or con themselves into the illogic of believing they're together, if not individually, the reason and purpose for the existence of everything else.
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Maybe start with fixing Ontario
     
  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the only thing i know about ontario is that its in canada. the only part of which i've ever visited was vancouver island. which seemed just ok, as well as anyone can judge anyplace in less then two days. the western u.s. on the other paw, i can speak for, as that is where i have lived for most almost the entirity of my 67 years. without everyone who thinks the filth of aggressiveness is doing the world any kind of favor, whatever their ideologies, beliefs or national origen, this planet really would be a better place.
     
  13. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    How can a person who is screwed up say what is reality and what isn't?
     
  14. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    'Culture is not your friend' - Terrence Mckenna.

    I agree up to a point. Certainly the dominant culture is not our friend. But we could evolve new forms of culture. If the world situation for humans is to change for the better, that will have to be.
     
  15. Ash Ketchum

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    Some people say that today's culture of capturing Pokemon from the wild and then forcing them to fight is wrong. These people are wrong though. I don't force my Pokemon to battle, i look into their eyes and i can tell that they want to battle.
     
  16. themnax

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    if people who think aggressiveness is doing this world any favors didn't exist, then yes. of course no one has to unexist themselves.
    it really doesn't take rocket science to have a conscience.
    and hatered of logic is no less self defeating of those deny the logic of consideration, even to themselves.
    you may have everything and still wonder what is missing.
    looking for what is in belief or ideology won't find it there, nor will hiding oneself from vacuum by physical means nor other.
    nor will giving it some simple name.

    my companions walk invisibly beside me
    even fighting is one more of those substitute things.

    the play of stratigy and tactics is no more then a passing of the time.
    trying something and when it works, sure that's fine.

    but its in the formulating, in the process of formulating
    that all the gratification when something does work,
    or even when it don't,
    its in the process of formulating more even then in the testing.
     
  17. Meliai

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    Not that I disagree with the premise that the world is a bit screwy, but reality is essentially the combined experience of billions of different perspectives.



    "Create your own culture." - also Terrence McKenna
     

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