The debris exploding sidewards out of the falling towers is for me proof enough for controlled demolition!
science is useful but it seems that science is god for you odon.... there is such a thing as common sense ya know... common sense, intuition, history repeating itself... science is not everything for everyone...
In many cases it is "God" for me... However, I was just being flippant in this case. Common sense, intuition: That's fair enough...but in this instance I think the argument is a little weak. It's not as bad as hearing loud noises/bangs and equating that to large bombs that must have been planted in the towers...but it is close. If it had been: debris exploding sidewards out of the towers prior to there collapse...that is one thing, but: the debris exploding sidewards out of the falling towers, that's a completly different scenario. Doesn't common sense and intuition, in that case, point to the building evacuating debris out of the windows due to down-ward pressure?
Haha thats funny so the wind speed downwards must have been some thousand miles per second to accelerate debries like that.
Where did I mention wind speed? I'm talking about air-pressure. When there is a building collapse the subsequent down-ward air-pressure within the building, for e.g in the lift shafts, creates high air-pressures, which eventually would force out that pressure through the various lower floors and out of the windows...throwing anything in the way (debris) out with it. Does that make sense?
Air in motion= wind. Sorry but I speak other languages better than english. If you look at the towers exploding you figure that air pressure alone from something falling down isnt enough to get such acceleration of very heavy chuncs of debries. Weighting many tons!!! Better let you explain that by a native english speaker
Ok, I'll forgive the loss of meaning in translation. Yes, I do think it was just the downward air-pressure. Don't forget several of the buildings interior floors collapsed downwards prior to the whole building collapse. That would act as a concertina with a few holes in it (the holes in this case being the windows). If you can show some images of debris weighing many tons exploding sidewards out of the building prior to the towers collapsing then I might be able to appreciate what you mean.
Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyu-fZ2nRA"]YouTube - 9/11: South Tower "Collapse" video compilation You see huge chunks being projekted sidewards over a very long distance, no air pressure can do that.
How else are we supposed to deal with the surplus liberal middle class population (perhaps the greatest threat that ever existed to this country) while at the same time instigating war (the only thing elite conservatives have ever come up with to stimulate the economy)? Those people took one for the team.. Least we could do is show some respect by waging war like we never have before... Together we can fortify the centralization of power, wealth, and authority in this country.. Maybe even abolish religious freedom... Uncle Sam knows best (You need not question him).... Yeah Patriot act....
Erm, that's the consequence of a dozen or so floors falling into each other. It wasn't spontaneous was it? This what I'm talking about (and thought you were) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZwSPbdxo6M"]YouTube - 9/11: Street level plume Here was me thinking you had a complicated premise.
Well, the guy in the video did say something like: "It's like a demolition crew had been at work."..so you know, it could have been explosives. (Hint: find footage that is slightly more convincing)
Thats exactly the problem with people nowdays- they have seen thousands of movies and videogames or artificial images with unnatural special effects and cant judge any more how materials behave in reality. You see an exploding tower in front of your eyes and dont realize it. Head full of virtual reality, if you spend 15000 posts in front of your computer there is absolutely an alteration of mind, that leaves traces if you accept it or not, sorry man. EVERYBODY I know who spends so much time in virtual reality loses the ability to judge reality and you are certainly not the only exception. Or do you believe a Jet can disappear in a little Shanksville or Pentagon hole, c`mon
I can accept it does look like an explosion. It is not the fact that it doesn't look like an explosion. It's the fact you had me thinking you were talking about spontaneous debris weighing many tons shooting out sidewards from the building. I'm sorry, but the clip you showed me had nothing of the sort. It had debris falling down and slightly outward. Consistent with a few dozen floors of a building falling into itself. It was the quietest explosion ever, too. I'm sure you will be showing me pictures of the small exit hole rather than the massive entrance hole, right?