when it was alleged to be a so-called black site involved in the CIA's network of extraordinary renditions
They used stollen passports. All of them: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm So in fact nobody now knows who they were.
Maybe it was alleged as you say. But I had strange dreams that time... And I'm saying about my feelings. CIA is top secret agency so nobody know who they are and what they are doing. I just don't have any trust to them. If they where doing Guantanamo why not Szymany? Anyway maybe someday it become to the day light how they are using their billions of dollars. Of course I know that in China is much much worse with human rights but in Holland or in Poland is much much better. Or even in UK or Ireland.
Dreams? wow I've not heard that before. Sorry, but dreams do not count, neither do "feelings" or a your lack of trust. "Guantanamo why not Szymany" - becaue one is well documented the other is alleged. Irrelevant to what we are talking about, shredding the truth IMO.
Well, for the record, whether something makes the leap from "alleged" to "well documented" is essentially up the the mass media, who are the only ones with the power to "document" things, apparently. Doesn't matter how many people have been there or seen what's happened, unless the media picks it up and runs it. Only then is it true.
Whether it's Szymany or not, without a doubt there are CIA blacksites across Europe, Africa and Asia. It's a bit naive to assume that the CIA are just flying terrorist suspects around the globe for no reason. Though I fail to see what this has to do with the 9/11 conspiracy theory. Guantanamo and the CIA Blacksites are simply used to allow the CIA to use torture without that pesky 'human rights' issue getting in the way.
Not true, the media report if it is "alleged" or "well documented" - the "truth" is in evidence. To be honest with you, if there is "black sites" how does that constitute to prove the other allegations? Like Finnaz has said: Though I fail to see what this has to do with the 9/11 conspiracy theory. It would be original if prejudices did not come to the for, which always do come to the for. Amalgamate many opinions here, removing prejudice and posing and there is the truth.
Don't need to be a Sherlock Holmes to get know that they are all death. But they used false pasports so we don't know who they were.
There is a wealth of information. You sound like an inteligent person, why are you dragging this back about 5 years?
I'm not dragging it back five years. I'm just saying that there is not a lot of information on the supposed hijackers. At least, not that I know of.
The truth is, there is. Enough information to move on from talking about them, like we know little. Maybe not 5 years, but we do seem to be stuck in a particular point in this arguement, that moved on quite a while ago. I don't wish to be rude, that is just how I see it. Please continue, I',m just putting my two pennys in. Continue at the same rate as you like. Just I thought you may have moved on from this now.
Well, for one thing, I think you should not regard all of the supposed "conspiracy theorists" as a single cohesive entity, being that I had not made any comment about the hijackers up until that last one. I actually gave up on this thread a page or two back. I guess I should have stayed away.
Ok odon let's talk about more actual issues: I mean my backyard: it is messed up with blood. The price of the land is cheapest in the all WarmiĆsko-Mazurskie county. See yesterday article from NY Times: http://www.tinyurl.pl?owZWdz1l If there is no killing and torturing why I hear the screams?? And why top class politicians rising their voices including pentagon officers? The land is beautiful, there will be airport there, forest, lakes, river... But people don't like to live in my area. I can point you on the map where I have my land and show you the prices on the pages from mortgage agencies to compare! Its scary there!
Bin Ladden's been trying to blow the two towers for years, 9/11 was the fourth attack(now that I'm thinking about it, there could be more I'm not aware of) by bin ladden on the two towers, plus he attacked our navy and completly destroyed a few embassies, and what did Clinton do? Fire 90 missles into afghanistan destorying Al'qudea training camps. We knew all about the terroirtsbut we didn't believe they were capable of actually bringing down the two towers. America thought that they were so strong and powerful that there was no way some terroist group out of the middle east would even come close to destroying the likes of the two towers. Well... they did, humilating. I thought it was sad and that something should have done about it earlier, sure at least we shot some missles, but we should have done more. Peace is great, but what is peace without justice, without a secured future? That kinda peace is not what I'm fighting for.
Wrong thinking tra la la la my young men. Justice is not striking back when someone hurts you. This is called revenge only. Bin Laden never said that he organised attacks : http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/ http://www.robert-fisk.com/usama_interview_ummat.htm He is not guilty. Beside that it is not in his style tra la la la. (video is false - I knew many religious Muslims - no one never will put gold ring on his finger - especially when showing himself to other brothers Muslims - that fat guy from video doesn't even look like Usama) So I will tell you what is the case: The case is that we need to start thinking like one family. Why? Because we live on one body: Mother Earth - so we are one body. If someone in Africa is sick - you can get sick from him in 24 hours being in US! Why left hand should hurt right hand? WE NEED TO UNITE and start putting peaceful influence on the politicians, educate people around us, teach them physics, art, mathematics, love and respect. Hear what the most famous physician has to say in this matter, Dr. Michio Kaku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H74dqU-ybw&feature=related Peace my men! Love gives love, hate only is lowering our already low chances to survive. By the way Zorba. Who are the high-jackers?