What have people learned about 6-apb so far? What sort of experiences on what doses? GB, I think you took 40 mg recently? Why such a low dose? At what point could you have driven? Thanks
i think he took 80 mg (usually doses more like ~160) and he drove at 3 AM-ish dunno what time he dosed, so i suppose i'll let him reply
I most recently dosed 80 mgs 6-apb at 9:30 at night and didn't drive until the sun came out in the morning. I took that dose because it was what I had remaining. I prefer doses of about 200 mgs, I find that when I take that dose I have a rushing onset with fairly pronounced visuals that is usually stronger than the MDxx chems that I've explored at a similar dose level. I experience fairly distinct patterning and shifting of objects akin to those of a moderate dose of acid for about the first 20-30 minutes or so then it kind of plateaus a bit after that visually and the rush slows, other notable affects is there are occasionally auras around people and tracers off lights which can transform and sort of melt and mold themselves into different forms when I move my gaze away from the lights. I find 6-apb tends to be more emotionally subdued compared to MDMA, I definitely feel like I'm rolling but I'm not as encompassed in as overt bliss, empathy and euphoria. 6-apb slightly reminds me a bit of 2cb/2ci in this sense, pleasant and positive but not overwhelming or forceful with these qualities as MDMA. However the tactile sensations are very pronounced on 6-apb, I often get the sense of dissolving, traveling, tingling pleasureable radiating sensations that I do with MDMA when experiencing the tactile effects with closed eyes, simple hugs can send euphoric shivers reverberating up and down my spine. Dancing is good, in short bouts it can compare with MDMA but for whatever reason, I don't feel quite the boundless energy that I do with MDMA usually. As a generalization, I feel my body absorbs certain parts of music differently, low end bass and drums rattle the core of my being and usually influence my lower body while treble and high end such as synth effects tend to influence more of my upper body and hands, though this is not absolute in how I experience the music. I feel I can enter spaces and trance states while dancing and can absorb the sound frequencies of the music into my body, dancing with or near others can also enhance this sensation of feeling energies. I find it easier to meditate with 6-apb than MDMA, not quite as strong of jaw grinding and I get some interesting CEV's but they usually aren't clearly defined, although there feels like a good amount of depth to the space. The comedown is more gradual and drawn out than MDMA, it's good that it doesn't have the emotional freefall of MDMA but it also takes quite awhile longer for the comedown. The duration seems quite variable, I've yet to quite find any rhyme or reason, generally peak effects seem about 6 hours but I've been significantly affected well beyond 12 hours. One of my more recent 6-apb experiences a few months ago, my scale was low on batteries and kind of failed me and I took a dose that I measured at 200 mgs but it had to have been quite a bit more, probably must've been about 250 mgs or so. On this dose, I was getting fairly significant visuals throughout the entire trip, really unique and fairly complex stuff, I was seeing a lot of geometric poles crossing with each other and geometric colored bands making these poles seem like psychedelic candy canes vibrating to the music and there was a depth to the trip which reminded of candyflipping, however I felt more impaired cognitively then lower doses. I wouldn't recommend that dose though and I don't plan to take it again, I felt fairly nauseous on the comeup, and that is my favorite dose for MDMA which suggest that 6-apb is more potent. Another exploration of about 220, I found the onset characterized by fairly intense stimulation particularly around my temples which had me glued and puddled on a couch for about a good 45 mins. When I dose about 150 mgs, I usually have a more gradual, flowing onset with less of the rush, reminding me slightly of mescaline if I'm outside, headspace more geared towards the emotional rather than the cosmic but just as beautiful in it's own right. Music still sounds very amazing at this level and I still get pronounced tracers off of lights, feel compelled to dance and move my body and pretty much all the other full spectrum of effects I seek at 200 mgs, just don't feel like I journey quite as deep. So most the effects I find really positive and sometimes I'm in complete awe of the experience, makes me feel quite connected and heightened sensations of understanding myself and others, while other times it's really good but more carefree and fun. For some of the negatives, I find much like MDMA it can leave me emotionally vulnerable, so I can perhaps perceive a stronger connection with someone else than may be there and I feel it may adversely impair memory slightly but difficult to discern among the other drugs that I've done and based on your guys response on my recent posting, I'm really doubting that it's due to 6-apb. I find 6-apb really worthwhile to explore, I don't find a strong desire to use it frequently but I usually thoroughly enjoy it when I do explore it.
i know that you sometimes add caffeine to your mdma doses. have you tried doing that with 6-apb? not that i would recommend it - might be extra strain on your heart or something. but i ask because of the comments you made about dancing on it vs. mdma.
I have tried it, I don't feel quite the same accenting of the affects as with MDMA maybe due to the more subdued nature of 6-apb and I find Caffiene can extend the MDMA peak but the 6-apb duration is already long enough.
Thanks for that Guer. I've taken it only once - 150 or 200 mg, probably 150. It was inside with a lot of undercover people and whatnot. Weird scenes inside the goldmine. I probably should try 100.
