4 MeO PCP

hmmm it's really expensive, 50gbp for a gram. i can get k very cheap and have quite a tolerance to it so i think id be throwing my cash away
damn tolerance!! my k tolerance even effects my nitrous usage.

think i'll give this one a miss unless i manage to stay away from k for a couple of months.

also i don't inject and was hoping to snort

 

The one time I snorted I was wishing someone came along and knocked me out with a baseball bat (cricket paddle?) for about 20 minutes.

 

How much did you snort of it?

 

I initially snorted 20 and then I had to water down 80 mgs and squirt up my nose more bearable that way but still burned.

 

Anyone have a good dose to plug this shit at yet? I think the last time I did it I did 300+mg and got hella sick, fever, throwing up all day/night, and shitting hella bad. I am looking for a dose to put me in outer space without throwing up..

 

It was the first chem I ever plugged, I did 100 mgs and its was less than stellar for me, kind of like a subpar dxm trip. I thought you injected now? If so 100-140 mgs Im injection should be good. Its not 'outer space' material for me its a very euphoric and upbeat disassociative.

 

I've never done i/m only i/v, 3 times within 2 days. Never want to inject again though, I don't want to sound like a pussy with no pain tolerance, but that was an experience I can do without for the rest of my life. The pain in my arm hours after and the following days freaked me out and just the general feeling of putting a needle in my vein and pushing shit into it..

 

miss you mr dynamickid!

 

@homegrown: Im injection is much much easier than iv injection. You have a much broader room for error with IM because you got a whole muscle to hit as opposed to a thin vein.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do it necessarily but it is a great route for some drugs, disassociatives in particular. I have not had any pain from Im injection in like more than half a year. Your thigh muscle is pretty much impossible to mess up on you just have to make sure the needle is down and to push the plunger slow and steady. I have absolutely zero bruising or trackmarks or stuff that's associated with iv injection.

 

What got you into using a needle, others around you?

 

Sort of, I actually did IV before I ever tried IM kind of like Homegrownideas, but I had a Medical Student Inject me, so it went alright. She injected me with Ketamine either 2-3 times in one day, that was all I did for intravenous. I also read about IM injection and how much more potent and better the high was via IM for ketamine and it is. Same goes with Methylone and 4-me0 pcp, basically just through exploration though.

I don't inject anything and everything and that's definitely something I would be cautious of If you want to experiment with this route, once you understand how easy IM injection is it kind of makes you want to try it with all kinds of chemicals (not unlike insuffalation but no burn if you do it right and it's SO SO SO much cleaner feeling than snorting drugs. There is like a ritualistic feeling to it too which kind of turns me on to it but really DPT and DMT are the only Hallucinogens that I will inject.

 

What's IV/IM DMT like?

 

I said 'will inject.' I haven't experienced DMT injected yet, I actually tried to IM DMT freebase when I was a DMT Noob and got no effects, than I found out after you need DMT Fumarate. I will again require assistance if I want to IV it because I don't want to miss a vein and go into a DMT trip in complete pain, but unfortunately I am no longer friends with that Medical student.

I have done IM injection of DPT though and that's a pretty amazing trip.

 

The DMT noob part cracked me up!