4-aco-dmt?

writer, at what dose would you say it kind of switches over? ~40 mg?

 

I've snorted almost 30mg of 2CB, and it was earth shattering.... would 50-60mg of 4 aco bombed even hold a flame to that?

 

40mg had a bit of a dark undertone for me. The experience was positive overall, but it was definitely not 100% euphoric, and DEFINITELY not "gentle". Also, my mood kept shifting rapidly. There were moments of startlingly profound clarity and insight, but also moments of confusion, anxiety, and even fear.

Eyes open vs. eyes closed makes a huge difference as well. One moment I was staring out the window enjoying the scenery, noticing details I normally wouldn't, marveling at how time seemed to be slowing down, etc., but still grounded firmly in reality. Then I closed my eyes and instantly felt my ego start to dissipate. There was a sinking, immersive feeling as the CEVs went wild and completely overtook my reality. The initial shock of this actually reminded me a bit of salvia divinorum, in terms of "forgetting" my sense of self, and the uncanny familiar feeling like I'm tapping into the source.

 

would i be correct to presume this is legal ?
i see its a research drug whih implies the govt hast had time to ban it/

 

This guy knows!
:sifone:

 

It is a grey area substance...

To be prosecuted for posession of 4-aco-dmt a judge and jury would have to see solid evidence suggesting you intended to ingest said substance. Such a case is seemingly unprecedented, and thus we, as a community, continue to try our luck.

A good idea is to research some excuses you may have for having an analogous psychedelic besides consumption.... such as bamboo fertilizer lol

 

@writer: My response was in regards to this post which I agree with and I specifically mentioned the 20-30 mgs range.

Also SB had ego death on a lower dose, so its not strictly dose.

 

Well, all 2c-x compounds are phenethylamines, whicih tend to be more potent upon insufflation. 4-Aco-DMT, a tryptamine, is either the same strength or weaker when insufflated.

 

^bombed means oral

 

I did not even notice that. I skipped detail, assuming he was comparing insufflation.
Fail on my part.

 

i just put in an order for some 4-aco-dmt today. super excited! anyway ive done shrooms alot but dont really know how the doses transfer. what would you guys say is a good starting point using the 4-aco-dmt. 20mg? 30mg?

 

30 mgs if you've done shrooms alot and have hcl

 

Ahh, yes, I forgot to specify that my trip was with 4-AcO-DMT Fumarate.
I've never tried the HCl form, although I hear it's roughly 130% more potent?

 

I would say so yeah. That neighborhood.

I would bet you good money that 60mg 4aces orally would blow 30mg 2c-b snorted out of the water. I've eaten 50mg 2c-b before and it is not even in the same area of intensity as 50mg 4aces.

That's very true set and setting play a huge role, I can imagine someone taking like 75mg of 4aces and still fighting to hold on and maybe even succeeding to some degree.

 

Alright, I have a question... Last night, me and a friend experimented again with some 4-AcO-DMT. I took roughly 80-100mg, and she took 25-50mg.
For the majority of the trip, everything was alright, we were both just tripping really hard. However, when we started to come down, she started acting extremely strange. She became extremely unresponsive, closing up, telling me she was dead. I would ask her what we did that day and she would have no idea. She kept repeating to me that she was dead and that she just didn't care. When confronted by her mom, she would divulge any and all information that she could remember, including what she had done and who she had gotten the 4-AcO-DMT from (me). The night ended with her mom bringing her to the emergency room.

Should I be scared here? Her mom found one of the capsules containing the 4-AcO-DMT in my friend's bedroom, and she believes she got it from me.
Also, will she be alright? I mean, everyone tells me she will be, that she'll come back down, but it's just hard to believe after seeing her like that. Her essence was just completely gone. I know, ego-death, but it was just so much.

So, could anyone help me out here? Any and all information would help...
I REALLY hope she's going to be okay.

 

she took 25-50 mg?! that was your mistake - not properly measuring your doses. she should be fine, i hope for the best

 

Well, I had the doses pre-measured to 25mg, and I gave her two. Either I dropped another one while handing her the two, or she took one and dropped the other. Measuring wasn't the issue.

 

How old is she/how old are you?

 

She is sixteen, I am seventeen.

 

Hmmm.. you know some people don't believe people should experiment with psychedelics until their mid 20's because at your age, your brain isnt fully developped. It's not impossible that this triggered psychosis (but if this is the case, theres a strong chance that she was going to develop it anyways). Maybe she really wasnt ready and is seriously freaked out... Did you get any news from her?

As the others said, make sure you keep your shit clean for a while cause some people might come lookin'

Do you know if she or her family have a history of schizophrenia/mental illness?