2nd American Revolution

Discussion in 'Protest' started by TreePhiend, May 8, 2004.

  1. TreePhiend

    TreePhiend Member

    Who will take arms with me to overthrow the US government!!!??? They have finaly pissed me off enough, I am a pacifist generally, but I really can't take it anymore. I know I will probibally die, but "it is better to die on your feet than live on your knees" ~Emilano Zapata I would like to instate a true, idealistic, utopian, communist government. Mabye Cuba and China will help me!


    WHO'S WITH ME!
     
  2. Maverick83

    Maverick83 Guest

    There are too many people with guns that believe the contrary. It won't work man. Sorry. Try again when everyone forgets that communism is a falied system. Then they might go along with it.
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

    You're an idiot.
     
  4. dreamweaver

    dreamweaver Member

    The only way you could pull of a revolution is if you had enough people to join arms with you...and that is just not going to happen. not in america. be realistic, find other ways to protest the government besides a full scale revolution.
     
  5. Megara

    Megara Banned

    i'm sure you can appeal to all the lunatics who wear che t-shirts, im sure they'll pick up the good fight.
     
  6. DharmaBum

    DharmaBum Old Guard

    They'll be kicking your door down soon enough with talk like that!...and yes i'd have to agree it's hardly a realistic approach to solving the many Problem's America are Suffering at the moment.You can do Far more good Alive than Dead! IMO.
     
  7. TreePhiend

    TreePhiend Member

    I just thought it was time to get radical. I'm obviously not going to actualy do this.

    Mabye I should re-phrase this into a hypothetical question:
    If there was a large uprising of the proletariat in America advocating armed revolution would at which point would you join?
     
  8. dreamweaver

    dreamweaver Member

    <Mabye I should re-phrase this into a hypothetical question:
    If there was a large uprising of the proletariat in America advocating armed revolution would at which point would you join?>

    It depends, I'm not satisfied with America right now, but I wouldn't say i'm so dissatisfied that i'd want to overthrow the government completely. I'd say a widescale oppression of american rights that directly affected me and all citizens would have to occur before i'd join in. I'm definitely not oppressed right now..you're obviously not oppressed..I cant think of very many people living in america who are, so I dont think i'll be joining any revolution anytime soon.
     
  9. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

    I'm not a prole, I'm a peasant :p
    I have a shotgun behind the front door to deal with anyone that comes and dares to endanger my family (or comes to steal my collard greens), no matter what side they may claim to be on. Got it?



    Power to the People
     
  10. Devocet

    Devocet Member

    Im with you, shit dosent it say like we can overthrow our government if where unhappy? i know it says it somewhere. but yea lets go change some shit.
     
  11. God

    God Member

    So TreePhiend, how long have you worked for the United States government?
     
  12. JohnThursday

    JohnThursday Member

    I say arm yourselves with lots and lots of psilocybin and distribute accordingly. Can you imagine the amount of people that could benefit from just one psychedelic experience? I've talked to some people who've never even had ONE, and their close-mindedness is sadly no surprise. Just get the shroomz into the system and have a mass mind-expansion.
     
  13. Oh that's an ingenius idea John. And let's just forget all the people who go on paranoid bad trips and recieve no benefit whatsoever.

    And let's also forget about the idea of Soma...I mean, if everyone had a legal way of forgetting their problems for as long as they wanted, that wouldn't create apathy or anything...oh no.
     
  14. JohnThursday

    JohnThursday Member

    Wow. I didn't expect anyone to take it that seriously, but since you did, I'll say I didn't mean so much of an unaided trip, like without babysitters. I've had bad trips too; I've also had people I knew with me to keep me informed of how plainly PARANOID I was getting.

    I also didn't mean to imply something of a SOMA revolution where people just escape from reality all the time. The idea of a soma doesn't really go along with the kind of psychedelic mind-expansion I was referring to. I thought one of the benefits of psychedelics is seeing things as they really are and realizing either how much we're getting fucked or how much we're really blessed everyday.
    That's all.
    Peace and love
     
  15. bluegill

    bluegill Member

    i feel ya JT, i was a very cclosed minded person, then i found shrooms, they sent me on the wildest trip for over a week, i ate shrroms and blue honey and thought of the strangest things but they all made sense when i reflect on it, although towards the end i did take a bad trip thought i had aids, and just balled up in the tent and cried like a little girl, funny as hell now, but not while it was happenening, it tore me up so bad, that as soon as i got back from the camping trip i went straight to the hospital and had a blood test, i was clean of course, but at the time i was sure i was ate up and dying...hehehe, and i've not drug a skeezer out of a bar since, maybe it was a good thing??????
     
  16. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

    OK lets not all chalk up how pyschedelics saved us cause thats bullshit. Anything you experience on a trip was already somewhere in your head. Pychedelics kick it open for you. Right! But I do believe in halucegens for the masses. I'm more of an asshole though. Like making Electric Punch without telling everyone, staying sober and then make sure they dont kill themselves. I'm a sick bastard to want to study people like that but then again, so was every other scientist. Long live the pychonaught era.... but back to the Revolution... The subject of the post. I would not help take up arms for a communist revolution because the focus is still material. Anarchy, I would fight for, freedom I would fight for, FUCKING real democracy with personal freedoms I would fight for. America is dead though you have to relize that. We're gonna kill ourselves and die before we figure out we fucked up. The country's going out with a gun in one hand and a big mac in the other. I think it was like 15000 protested automatic weapons at an NRA confrence and the leader said it was a small crowd, "Nothing four guys with AK-47's couldnt handle." Thats how gone this country is. Where in regards to Iraqi's being terrorised, not a majority but a large percentage cries out "Were at war and everyones overreacting. Let the armed forces do their job" Now even Tony Blairs support has wavered and I say, Fucking great. Chimps should not have nuclear weapons and neither should someone DUMBER than a chimp.
     
  17. fylthevoyd

    fylthevoyd Super Moderator

    "When in the course of human events,it becomes necesary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,and to assume among the powers of the earth,the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature's and of Nature's God entitle them a decent respectto the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident,that all men are created equal,that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,that among these are Life,Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.That to secure these rights,Governments are instituted among Men,deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of the ends,it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,and to institute new Government,laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form,as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

    There is our right to throw these assholes out of Washington and take control of this country. That is the first paragraph to the Declaration of Independence,upon which this country was founded on.Yes the time has come to take drastic measures,in order to survive.The pacifistic approach is what has brought us to this point in time.The time has come for the people to stand up against this fucked up government,and demand satsifaction or remove the powers that be.By whichever manner is necessary in order to acheive this.Fuck Uncle Sam.I for one am tried of that faggot attempting to fuck me in the ass with his red white and blue dick.Fuck him.

    Yeah I am pissed off,I just wish more people would open their fucking eyes and take notice and demand the changes needed or make it happen themselves.
     
  18. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    Any armed revolution would wind up face to face with the full might of our military industrial complex. That clash would make the Kent State massacre look like a walk in the park.


    The only revolution that might succeed in modern America would be a grassroots awakening of civic responsibility which saw the widespread replacement of all local, state and federal "career" administrators (each level in turn beginning with the local level) ousted in favour of progressive "temporary" administrators with fixed term limits of no more than 4 years.

    Start removing the entrenched foundations of our current elite power structure and perhaps we might have a fighting chance to restore America to the original design evisaged by our founding fathers.

    End career politics and force complete transparency by ending the most overused coverup excuse used by those same politicans, namely "national security".
     
  19. fylthevoyd

    fylthevoyd Super Moderator

    LickHERish,that is exactly what I am talking about.I did not refer to an armed revolution,as much as I would like to see it.It would be total suicide to go up against the M&I complex.I see people bitch and complain on these sites,if only they would use their computers to voice their concerns with the powers that be.I shoot my complaints over the internet to the shit for brains that control us. I am sure that I am on every subversive list that,that Uncle Sam has,but fuck him it is my right to voice my opinion. I am not a militant,I am a realist.If I had my way about it,I say fence in Washington D.C.,turn it into a prison.Since it is full of lying,theiving,cheating,murdering pieces of shit.This is where they all belong,isn't that what our society does with criminals?
    Our government has more concern for enemy prisoners of war,than they do for their own people.Hell our elected officals are the ones that need to be strung up and put on display as criminals against the people,because in all actuality that is what they are.
    Knowledge is power,that is why they attempt to keep the people in the dark.
    People need to learn the system that binds them,bet them with their own system.
    Remember,if you don't vote you don't have the right to bitch.The free thinkers need to protest by voting,not ignoring the voting system in an attempt to voice disconcern.Shovel the shit out of Washington,the only way to do this is by voting.Armed revolt only gets you caged and out of the fight for freedom.

    Power to the people,fuck the government.
     
  20. serra

    serra tentacle girl

    there is just so many things wrong in so many diretions. i agree with darklunacy on this one, as sad as it is. i fight for awareness and freedom of choice and everything, but it's so hard to believe we can turn this machine around.
    we can turn bits of it around but i don't think we can reverse the trajectory.

    my proposed solution: no one have kids! ever! if no one in north america had kids ever again we'd fuck their plans up good and proper. sure we'd die out but we're just a bunch of greedy overcomsuming bastards anyways. let's give mother earth and chance.




    for those of you who take things seriously, i am kidding. but only kind of.



    i don't want force this world upon my children.
     

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