2nd amendment supporters

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hillbillyhippy, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I didn't just type something; I showed opinions of our founders, the reason disarmament is unconstitutional and the fact that cops/military are just citizens in uniform. I also said

    “I’m just stating the fact that history is very important — people need to understand what happened. Different countries around the world have tried to disarm their citizens, and then have tried to exterminate their own now-unarmed citizens,”citing Turkey, Russia and Germany as examples.“In 1911, Turkey established gun control,” Wurzelbacher says in while obliterating fruit with shotgun blasts. “From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated. In 1939, Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, six million Jews and seven million others, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.”
     
  2. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    Yes. OPINIONS of our fathers. They were still people who could say whatever they wanted.

    Also, what is your opinion of strong, independent and free countries that have strict gun control and no tyranny? There is more to tyranny than an unarmed people. This issue is infinitely more complex.

    Those things you quoted are all about genocides. You are a young, white male. If America tried to exterminate and disarm white males the government would end up exterminating itself.
     
  3. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    "A country cannot die, but by suicide."~Ralph Waldo Emerson~

    The government doesn't care who they exterminate. They've planned terrorist attacks in the USA (Operation Northwoods was a proposal by our FBI, to commit terrorism in the US, and blame it on Cuba as a pretext to war;) Kennedy wouldn't sign off on it however. Still, it should go to show that the government makes decisions not to help people, but to aid Big Business when they wanna push their Agenda contrary to our founding principles. Just about every war after WWII was unConstitutional. If we could follow the Constitution, we would be free. The reason freedom in this country is gone because of radicals like you who demand government to get involved with peaceful people being peaceful.

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    Source (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm) See? you're more likely to be poisoned than die of gun deaths; and i don't know about you, but I'm not too afraid that someone's gonna poison me.
     
  4. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Very well said.

    :2thumbsup:
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    "Our founding fathers who art in heaven...hallowed be thy names" :p
     
  6. sunfighter

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    I think this is completely crazy. I would have to say you are a gun nut.
     
  7. sunfighter

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    I could just as easily say that the reason freedom in this country is gone is because of right-wing conservatives who demand that government spy on everyone, militarize the police force, establish secret courts, in order to keep us as safe as possible, never mind the Constitution and the Fourth Amendment.
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Which invaders would he mean? Mexicans?
     
  9. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    In Boston we would be armed to defend against the Chechens or maybe the Kazakhs.
     
  10. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    who is it that you expect to control the guns in your country Youfreeme?
     
  11. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    So? What's wrong with that?
     
  12. hillbillyhippy

    hillbillyhippy Member

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    yes what exactly is wrong with that unless you think gun nut means because I own a gun im gonna do some columbine or adam lanza shit, which then makes you a bigot sir
     
  13. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Ha! That's just a good joke. As I said, Right means less governement- true rightist don't believe in war or spying on their citizen; Infact, my entire philosophy is based on non-violence, and leaving people alone.

    So please, don't compare me to the mainstream Republicans, as it isn't a fair analogy...
     
  14. YouFreeMe

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    While this might be a valid point you can's argue that most American Republicans are traditional, fair Republicans. What sunfighter said is completely true...the traditional American Republican is deadset on spying on us and controlling us. I'm much more concered with the 1st amendment at this point than the 2nd. The Tongue is mightier than the sword.
     
  15. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Without the 2nd amendment, you won't have a 1st amendment.
     
  16. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    The first amendment has already been attacked by Obama's HR347 (see ACLU) The Second is just as important however, because if the government decided to kick in our doors, we can protect ourselves. You can't talk soldeirs with guns out of killin you- they just follow orders.
     
  17. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    they can easily be converted into fully auto weapons
     
  18. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    but yes I support the constitution, unfortunately I wouldn't pass a background check :(
     
  19. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I can't ++ Rep you yet, dammet!
     
  20. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Handguns shoot rapidily just like Semis- I can pull the trigger 10 times and release 10 bullets, as fast as I can pull the trigger. The point is that most American firearm owners don't want to hurt anyone, (even Obama Admitted that)
     

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