2ct2: Dark thoughts and twisted auditory hallucinations

Oh ok it does not seem to have the steep dose/curve response of like 2ce so thats why I went for this complete jump in dosage orally.

 

I don't really understand why insuffalation hits so much harder than oral with this one. I understand why its in shulgins magical half dozen tho which I intially was baffled by. Especially if we are talking about being used in psychotherapy or something it has more of a balanced character than most psychedelics from my limited use. It would be worthwhile to take maybe like as a supplement to a few weeks/months of MDMA psychotherapy or something else that has a bit of chemically induced push in mood' or feelings.

 

Im not sure if you have taken mescaline before but the nature of mescaline and 2ct2 visuals are very different than all the tryptamines and 2c-x compounds. They have what I call 'flowering visuals' and I tried mescaline first so I gave it the name or read it somewhere from that experience. Nothing about 2ct2 is flowery to me tho. All I mean by that is that the visuals take place within the object you focus your attention on like watching a flower bloom on a video in fast motion. This happens to an extent on tryptamine and like 2ci and 2ce but those drugs seem to distort and morph your entire visual field as well. If you take 2ct2 especially in the 20-35 mgs range try focusing on specific objects and I think you may be surprised like some of the figures and shapes you will see, especially if you are outdoors and looking at plants and rocks or whatever. But yah flowering visuals are more subtle but can be pretty amazing.

 

Bedlam, your sig is literally painful to look at when I'm sleep dep'd

 

my feelings hurt probably about as bad as your eyes now. You could have been more selective in your choice of thread to point this out to me in, as opposed to this personal and informative thread containing many great responses.

 

Oh... I'm really sorry. I can erase it if you like. Was just sort of delirious/tired and reading many of your posts and getting sort of dizzy. I like your sig, but it does hurt my head a bit after a while.

 

just for you, I'll Change it today.

 

from my personal experience all 2ctx's seem to be like that but I've only tried t2 and t7 and haven't even gone high enough with t2 to really judge it's character. Although I did try t2 and t7 at similar doses and got hardly anything past threshold effects from either. Once I almost doubled my dose on t7 is where it really shined. when I try t2 I'm gonna go for 50 just like i did with the t7 because they seem to be on par as far as mg->effects in 25-30 mg range.