2ci & 2cc

I'd been up all night before on 25mg of each (oral) & thought I'd see how far I could go. Big mistake. Lol, & I still plan on eating 25mg each 4-aco-dmt + 4-ho-mipt, then plugging 15mg each 2c-e + 2c-t-2, then IMing 75-100mg dpt... Hope that's not a mistake. If so, I'll simply eat about 30mg clonazepam like I shoulda that day. I sorta enjoy doing crazy shit you never read about anyone else doing... I guess to answer you, I like the element of surprise & the super intensity...

 

The DPT IM sounds suicidal.

 

really, it's supposed to be safe. The mix of those five may not be...I think so though. Prob' end up with HPPD for a while after, oy vey.

 

i mean after that crazy mix.

 

Benzos are not a magical "abort button". They are yet another pharmacologically active compound you would be introducing to your already inundated body. You should know someone on here once took a benzo to "abort" a DPT trip and instead almost died, due to inhibited breathing. You are being really stupid dude, and you are going to bring all sorts of bad attention to the RC scene. You are not using these psychedelics, you are just abusing yourself. How the fuck do you go from 25/25 oral to 75/75 nasal? With two powerful entheogens? And you want to take an even bigger combo? Just put a bullet through your skull, that's the real trip son. And it'll save you lots of time and money and it'll keep our nice psychedelics legal as they are. Why do you want to be a statistic? Every now and then we get people like you in here, who abuse drugs in quantities and combinations that make our jaws drop, and every single one has either mysteriously disappeared and never posted again (OD, no question) or we've been informed they are in jail or in a psychiatric ward, not because psychedelics make you crazy, but because they did poorly chosen amounts of poorly chosen substances in poorly chosen sets and settings, and ended up hurting strangers or loved ones, and now the state owns their life.

How did you get arrested on 75/75 2c-i/4aces? What on earth could you have been doing at that dose? You were actually functioning? Do you not realize such a dose, besides being clearly "suicidal", is definitely a "stay in bed" dose? I'm gonna laugh when you stop posting here, or when we read that you've died. I'm gonna laugh. A lot of us will. Then I'll be ticked off that you've given "the man" more ammo against psychedelics.

Grow the fuck up.

 

If you have already been to jail while on psychedelics definitely try to heed some warnings.

I think your proposed combo seems a bit excessive personally and possibly a waste of some quality psychs. The psychonaut in me doesn't necessarily like how cookie cutter some of the dosages and potential combos have gotten so I actually apprectiate the idea you have, I think its very much in line with the true spirit of psychedelia. Just The 2ce/2ct2 mix with some dpt sounds like it could be breaking into new territory of exploration and perhaps will yield more of an informative/useful/interesting trip report and look into the phen/trypt dynamic. But to each their own, be careful man.

 

Mr. Writer: I have one question, why the hateful, spiteful, hypocritical attitude rather than offering sage advice? The RC scene doesn't belong to you or this community, yet you act aa though you're king of the fucking hill. "Grow the fuck up," is more inhospitable & begrudging, not at all insightdul, caring, nor concerned. If you cared one shred you'd be offering insight, sharing concern, or at least being polite. Son? I am almost certain that I am older than you, show me some fucking respect if you want me
to listen to you. And dude, I've read of you doing countless unsafe activities you fucking hypocrite. Take hallucinations for example, you
laugh at his indiscretions but alas when I chime in with similar stories, you chastise me & act the part of a total prick & nothing more or less. I'm sick of your dogma. As for how I ended up in jail, that day was so long ago & hazy at that so I barely remember the details, at any rate it not your fucking business (and nobody, including me, was hurt that day, thank you very much Mr. Nosey).

You'd honestly laugh? You are twisted sir. Also, what in your opinion is the limit on combinations or doses? I've read account after account of you dosing massively or making a myriad bizarre cocktails of your own, jackass. Take your own advice & grow up yourself. BTW, that story is but one of several in which I've pioneered into the unknown & all but that one time I've been okay (actually, I do want to add that of what I remember of that shitty day, the first thing I did do was crawl into bed).

You do realize we're ALL experimenting with fire as these are all rare, mostly unstudied sustances that for one person what was safe may lead another to an intensive care unit, where, BTW, docs ALWAYS give a safe dosage of a benzo & generally an antihypertensive to combat the stress & keep vitals in check.

Do you really have such a cold heart that you want me to literally blow my brains out? Shame on you, I certainly do not wish you any harm regardless of how pissed off I am. What helpful advice. Of course I don't want to be a statistic, what sort of question is that? If you aim at making some insightful wisdom to share, you have a funny way of doing it. Why not say, "If you really plan on doing this, I'd suggest (insert advice here), or perhaps you should rethink going that far," but no, not you. Instead I get hate mail from you with no clear intent other than to antagonize & bully me. Well, that worked. But nothing else you've said means fuck all to me in the context you framed it in except perhaps rethinking the dosage of clonazepam & remembering to through in some lisinopril for safety's sake.

My pop always said when I was a kid that opinions are like assholes, they all stink. Well, you've proven him right in my book. Next time, be nice & I just may listen or even go so far as to take advice (supposing any is given as opposed to just slandering me, like in your above diatribe). You know, when the hell in the history of interpersonal communication has being a dickhead ever really made an impact on someone's life? Hmmm, I'd say never. Usually it insights violent thoughts, words, or actions. You've done sadly nothing more than that, Mr. Writer.

Don't comment on my posts anymore if this is the dribble I've got to answer to. I'd rather answer to a thought-provoking question in which I don't get angry and call names but rather reflect upon my ideas & just maybe tone them down some. It's food for thought, but you obviously don't think too deeply about the feelings of others, and you also obviously think you know me, my tolerance, my level of experience, and everything there is to know since you're so kingly around here.

Days ago this started as a mild attack on me, now it's fueled you up to such a degree that you can't help but insinuate that I may as well just fucking die & that you hope I do. Go to hell.

 

'I'm gonna laugh when you stop posting here, or when we read that you've died. I'm gonna laugh. A lot of us will. Then I'll be ticked off that you've given "the man" more ammo against psychedelics.

Grow the fuck up.'


WTF?

 

He's alright, man. We all have to push the limits, from time to time. It sucks he ended up in jail, but shit happens. Leave the man alone. Shit.

 

Thank you guerillabedlam, and I will really consider what you're saying. However, my plan is not to gobble everything up all at once but rather to stretch it out in stages. I think I'll be safe, & I will have a sitter for this experiment.

Hey! Mr. Writer!!! *THIS* sort of insight/advice is what makes me think rather than just react. You really need to learn some manners and be more courteous. Guerillabedlam here has made some good points, which you could've done, as you're obviously very well-versed in the world of psychedelics, but you couldn't refrain from being a dick, could you?

Anyway, I won't be going to jail this time as I'm taking every precaution necessary to not be seen nor so much as heard by anyone in public (I have no intention of being in public for that matter, not even the woods).

Again, thanks dude.

 

I am a little stunned at writer talking like that with the dead laughing thing. But I think that the story is over the top, and it seems like cosmo needs to settle down and enjoy the subtleties in life.

Those doses are fucking crazy. Especially combined. I would decrease the dosage if I was going to do all of them in one experience.

Sometimes there needs to be a drastic attitude in order to make a drastic change. I think that you need to maybe be shocked into a view in order to see it. After all, your obviously a hard head!

I don't really know what to say because of the way this happened. Writer went over the top and so are you with the drugs. My advice to both of you is to grow up and calm down with both situations. Drugs and attitude.

P.S. TNS and writer, I said I wanted to do something for christmas if you remember. My process is going very slow and it didn't work the first two times. So, it might be a little bit

 

Exactly, and thank you too. Mr. Writer wrote me as if I plan on making a habit of taking it to the edge every time I dose. I dose sporadically, and usually when I do it's in modest proportions. Every now & again I get a wild hair up my ass that wants to stretch the boundaries of reality as far as they may be taken. I personally think, based on about five separate trip reports I've read of people mixing two or three of these five together, that I will be safe & sound with my sitter, have a blast & gain plenty of personal insight (always my main goal with psychedelics), & tread into some really mystical, mysterious territory. I'm excited and not at all apprehensive. Like I told guerillabedlam, though, I am taking medicinal as well as interpersonal precautions (I'll be certain my sitter is sober, or at least not near my level) so as not to die nor end up in any hairy situations.

So yeah, from one person's report, 4-aco-dmt & 4-ho-mipt mix wonderfully to make a very spiritual atmosphere with the addition of experiencing out-of-body sensations, the 2c-e & 2c-t-2 is supposed to help one delve really, really deep into one's subconscious mind, and then of course dpt offers ego death & wild visuals (well, 2c-e also does the latter for me). For these reasons, after over a month of researching different combos, I decided I would try this one time; I think all of those qualities will lend to making for a vastly life-changing event. I hope so anyway. I feel the need to exercise some demons, & psychs always assist me greatly in doing just that. I've heard of people quitting smoking cigarettes based on personal insights from doing things of this magnitude. That would be a plus in my book as I hate cigs but am addicted to them. Thank the heavens that I gave up drinking years ago. Anway, I digress,
the only other thing that I considered adding to this was dipt. But I thought that unnecessary since I'll already be going where nobody has before. I am treading carefully; say with the plugging, I know to do only 1/2 of what you'd do orally (& though I dislike the idea of shoving something up there, I hate nausea even more and expect it already from the dpt).

What's the wildest thing you've done and did it go well?

 

Fair enough. What dosage levels would you go with and how far apart should I space each segment in your opinion (the 1st being the the 4-subs, 2nd the 2c-x's, & 3rd dpt)?

 

:rofl:

i could never come close to your doses and combinations

There's playing with fire, and then there's playing with a hand grenade while covered in gasoline, and you sir, are the latter. Regardless of your age and what your pop told you, and how helpful or not my post is (in my stinking opinion its the most helpful post for you in this thread), you are being pretty suicidal. It's nice that you're asking for advice on your combinations, but just reading your combinations in the psyche bump thread is a serious LOL. It's like someone wants to base jump without any ropes or parachutes while drunk while blindfolded with hands tied, and the advice you're asking is what kind of rope should i use for my hands. I'm referring to your insane dozen-drug combo in psyche bump, not this thread. Though this thread is kinda the same deal.

I don't mean to bully you, I don't want to hurt your feelings, and I don't want you to die (that would be bad), but if you should die from these tomfooleries, i shan't be sparing a tear for you. you saw it coming and you opened your arms and took it. I feel like your posts are like reading a kind of "suicide note over time". Like gee, I WONDER how this will end.

but what the fuck do i know, take everyone else's advice, it's more useful than mine, i'll just take my neg reps and be on my way, have fun in the ER.

Now I get why Spicey blew up at you

 

the way u posted in the bump it was obvious that you thought everyone was going to be impressed with your bad ass eat all the rcs at once combo but instead most people were just offended that you thought it was alright to share. if you cant get what you want out of experimenting with 1 or at most a 3 psych combo i think its pretty clear that you will never be able to get what you are after with any psychedelics

 

Again with it, huh. I don't recall Spicey blowing up at me, she acted like a know-it-all when it comes to extracting things & we argued over safety precautions when the whole point I was making to her was that I'd gone through tremendous effort to eliminate any and all safety concerns with regard to said extractions. Other than that, I know of no other account where we've even spoken really.

And yeah, originally I was all gung-ho and acting stupid with some other things on my mind to throw into the mix. I've tamed it down quite a bit, and actually at the time I wrote that first post I was feeling a bit suicidal (not now though...however that had no outward bearing on my poor decision-making of the time, perhaps subconsciously, but I don't know). If I were NOW to add anything else at all it would be, as I said, dipt just to mess with sound, too. But this should do, I won't go the ER, I will be fine, I've even got a wristband device to measure blood pressure/pulse which I plan on wearing throughout the event (as well as what I noted before, taking some hypertensive meds to keep my cardiovascular system in check). And with regard to the benzos, I have been prescribed them since I was 17 (I'm 34 now). I know how to be safe with them and what's over the top. I also know firsthand that they calm you the fuck down when disoriented. Maybe 30mg of clonazepam is too much. But if need be, I won't hesitate. Benzos ALWAYS help people get through bad trips. Shit, if I had a halcion I'd maybe reserve one of those in the event it got really crazy. But I will not die from this. I'm pretty positive of that. Sorry for the bad rep thing. I never really give out bad reps, but you crossed a line and haven't even apologized.

 

Did you read the post where I admitted to being high as kite when writing that on top of super depressed over my friend being terminally ill and in the hospital? I wasn't trying to be "bad ass" or to show off or anything. I wasn't thinking clearly whatsoever. I was in a bad, bad place. I'm not now, but believe what you will. Clear?

As for your limit of three, that's arbitrary and as for your opinion that I'll never get what I want, you sir are very, very wrong. I'm getting exactly what I want (with the exception of the bad 2c-i/4-aco-dmt trip) every time. You apparently also did not read that I generally dose light and don't dose all that often to begin with. Some of my best trips have been off of one hit of acid or one tab of e.

 

Well I wouldn't want you to have bad e-vibes during your trip, so i apologize for being rude when i could have been more constructive. :grouphug:

what has been repped can never be unrepped :nopity:

now excuse me while i go plug my entire RC stash. bags and everything :guitarist:

 

How witty. Have a sitter handy bud. Oy vey, just stop it. PLEASE.

 

Yeah I remember. If it's too much of a hassle, you don't have to worry about it If you still wanna send a gift, whatever it may be, then do so at your convenience. Either way let me know if you've forgotten my address.

BTW, how've you been lately, man? How's your mom doing?