Agreed. 2ci was shitty compared to 2ce, in regards to the physical/emotional euphoria and the visuals. 2ci would've been worth doing before I ever tried 2ce, but the awesomeness of 2ce definitely ruined 2ci for me. lol
Do not use 50mg of 2c-e... That gave me massive HPPD for a long time. About a year and a half. Only drug that has given me lasting effects. I am talking about persistent HPPD too, not flashbacks. (I did this on TopNotch'es word... >_< ) p0ly, you just don't like either 2c-e or i? Those of you that are not liking the 2c-i, its because you are not dosing high enough. It's super mild at lower dosages. But super fun at higher. You can still function on a high dose of i, but not on e. You will have to chill and think for yourself in a dark place... In my opinion.
Every 2C i take makes me too ill (except T-7) to really say i like them. i dislike the speedy effects as well.
lol whoever says t7 isn't worth it, is not doin it right! only 2c's I've tried were B I and t7 (besides low dose t2). only t7 made me nauseous the first 2 times trying it. every other 2c has been golden! 2cb makes you too ill to like? your crazy!
I have B but haven't tried it yet, got so many other things to explore though so i'm in no hurry. I just really prefer Tryptamines, everyone reacts different and 2C doesn't do it for me. People on this forum don't seem to get this. I've had a few great 2CE/I/T7 experiences but the stuff feels like 'Alien' blood lol (ever dabbed or snorted it?) Hurts my stomach/nose/tongue on every route i've tried and quite harshly, i'd rather some acid.
I know what your talking about man. I think everyone would prefer acid over pretty much any other drug truthfully though
Nah man I appreciate your posts, and codmouse's posts on 2ce as well, because they highlight how different all these chems can affect people. I absolutely love PEAs and the 2c's so far, but my limited experience with trypts, well, hasn't gone quite as smoothly I guess. I should be revisiting 4aces very soon, and I feel my mindset this time around will be much better suited for a more enjoyable trip. I think I have to do this one solo next time as well. Maybe trying 100mg of DPT this weekend, or I will go with 4aces. Or no dose at all. Not sure yet.
Go for DPT. If you are ready that is. Its crazy shit man. 4-aco is fun as FUCK in higher doses though. Close to acid level maybe, when you start the comedown.
i agree that these RCs seem to have quite a variability in their effects, and i don't think i'll ever take 50 mg 2ce, but how do you know that is what gave you HPPD, and not high dose 2ci? or DPT? ect, etc. not really "fair" to say don't take 50 mg 2ce because it gave me hppd. but take high dose (50 mg?) 2ci.
50mg of 2c-e would be wow.. i dont even wanna know... thats something TNS would do... 25mg of 2c-e right now has me weweeeeeeeeeeee yo muthafuckaweeeeeeeeee.... PS: whatever advice TNS gives you on drugs divide by 2 and enjoy
60+ mg 2ce is where the money is. Gone as high as 60 before, but will probably go higher in the future. Tomorrow I'm going to try DPT for the first time. 100 mg i think, should be fun.
fuck that noise.. i mean.. yeah.. i could handle the next step in my 2c-e adventures... but 50...60.... got a ways to go.. but then again... i went from 12 to 16... to now 25~(honestly dont know.. my scale blows.. ya get what you pay for)
Ya definitely dose how YOU want to dose, don't let other people's experiences have the main say. That said, 60mg of 2ce is the shiiiiit haha. I don't think I'll ever go above 75mg.