yea, but maybe you DO have SOME tolerance. maybe your 10-12 mg doses are only giving you like a 8 mg effect. know what i mean? if you are experiencing cross tolerance to LSD, you must have a little tolerance to 2cp. but enough of that topic. could you (or anyone else) compare and contrast 2ce and 2cp? i have a lot of experience with 2ce and like it a lot (except for the nausea at the start and headache at the end). i might try some 2cp, but would like to read as much about it as i can first. what makes you like it better than 2ce? how are the effects different?
I feel iffy on the whole cross tolerance between PEAs and LSD. I personally don't find there to be one at all. I get used to tripping in general, and as a result my trips on various substances are a little less holyfuckingshit. I've tripped shrooms one day, L the next, followed by a PEA, and the only time I notice tolerance is if I do a substance (excluding DMT) multiple days in a row. If I get a ridiculous trip off 12 hits of L then it will seem like other trips I take are weaker than normal, but it's only because of where the L took me. Not necessarily tolerance.
Theres quite a dif between 2ce and 2cp. 2cp the come up is relaxed, actually alot of yawning. 3 hrs in the trip gets fairly intense. its a nice relaxed intencity though. last nite I watched movies for hrs. 8-12hrs seems to be max. the come down is vary nice ,never felt tence(like in the jaw) sleep can come vary easy. sex is vary intence! and wild! I did't mind 2ce, the come down sucks. the trip is alittle more uppity. but thats only at mid-point to me. I like the hole 2cp exsperience. tolerance? Non on the 2cp i find i could trip every night at same dose. unlike lsd where one nite is intence and next nite you ngotta do 12 hits to get a good tip. I dosed 2cp a couple nites then dosed lsd(2 hits) and i only got a fair trip.so i beleive the cross tolerance was affected.i would have tripped much harder if I had not dosed the 2cp before.. Does this help you? I think alot of ppl would like this 2cp. I don't think its got all the bad hype it was getting.as the overdose at 16mg. you don't need to dose above that. 10mg is pretty nice. so anything above that is intence. some ppl will want higher, I like high doses of anything myself. and 10-12mg is real nice. i haven't redosed like 6 hrs in yet. New Years i'll try that. I was real tired today from all the doseing. but not burned out.
how about the visuals and body high? like on 2ce i get great closed eye visuals, but not too much in the way of OEVs. some color enhancement, some twinkles or movements in my periphery, some breathing, morphing, etc. but nothing too crazy at doses 12-20 mg and the body high is usually pretty good once i'm actually tripping washing my hands or face or taking a shower feels really good my skin just feels pleasurable
I wanna do like 10mg orally. Why does everyone want to snort shit? Maybe just me, but I don't like putting substances up my nose. For that fact, I don't like anything going up my nose really.
i think i'm gonna try 6 mg first, then probably 8, then 10 i don't like snorting shit either the only thing that goes up my nose is my finger occasionally (and i guess K and DPT when/if i do them)
Yep, those are the only drugs that I plan on snorting is DPT and Kitty When I get my hands on them... But yep, I want a 10mg dose of 2cp, I think that would be a nice strong dose.
the come up left my body and head hurting a little bit and i was a tad nauseous at random times throughout the trip. it was a very nice dose though.. we just chilled in my room all night talking and i danced a little bit to ha. we pretty much had music on in the background the whole time. there was also a black light, plasma orb, many posters, and a visualizer(winamp). we were both laughing quite a bit. we cried a few times to ha. all in all, it was a great time. next time she will be taking 8mg and i will be taking 11 or 12mg. this was her first psychedelic experience. i find it hard to sleep on this substance. we dosed at 11pm and finally went to bed at 11:30am with the help of 100mg of seroquel. i will be taking it much earlier next time..probably new years.
must have been the cat in the hat? causing trouble again. Ya nevedr know how your day will go. cats get 9 lives. everyone watch out. they have road blocks all acroos the country tonight. so be careful.arty::driving:
about mid-night "P" is nice! everyone here is do'in fine for sure hahahaha. happy new year all. gotta go play with firewors now hahahaha
jwh and 2cp. i didnt do enough 2cp though. i will wait until tomorrow and try a higher dose. My first dose was a little high, especially snorting it like I did.