You should read the TR i posted, I also thought "eh what's another 10mg". Oh boy. Night and day. I also describe the visuals and other effects at that level. It is a fully complete psychedelic.
That's right. Based on the mild test, 30mg seems about right for a good trip, but not heroic. Shermin? Mrwriter?
my first time was 40mg. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=378869&f=126 A few months later I thought, what's 10 more milligrams. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=383816&f=126 30 would be perfect for the first dose
to be honest i found 4aco to be a let down i did 25mg and only had mild visuals and a tiny mind trip. But i felt amazing the whole nite i had quite the body high and oddly enough the chem made me arrogant which is really odd for a psy chem. i like the 2ce better so far. I plan on mixing both 20mg of both = stir fry brain
Having tried 4-aco-Dmt twice since posting here last, I think its a superb psychedelic. 2ce is just as superb though, so give that one a try next time around op. I have yet to see any resembelance in effects between 4-aco-dmt and dmt besides name like some have mentioned. I have found it to be quite similar to mushrooms but there are certainly some distinct differences as well.
anyday your not busy and is a good candidate to eat some 4-aco! if you do eat it today you'll probably enjoy it but not be blown away the intensity.
Go for it pork! That's a great first dose, it would be nice to do it while the sun is still out as long as the weather is tolerable.
main effects are about 4 or 5 hours tops then its a steady decline for another 2 hours or so. about 7 tops. I ate 35 mg thursday at 5 and was in bed and asleep by 12
and it kicks in pretty quick, right? i guess there's still time for today/tonight, but i might do it tomorrow. any next day "hangover," even if mild?
don't think it's gonna be tonight. i'm about to go eat mexican food. TNS, do you say that b/c of 4acodmt, or b/c of tripping at night in general?
If it's as similar to shrooms as people say, then it would be awesome in the dark, imo. It seems like shrooming is SUPPOSED to be done in the dark, in my experience. But yeah.....also because I prefer nighttime for all psychedelics. lol
You described the effects of 25 mg well. That's not a high dose. If you're looking for the deep effects, try about double that dose. I doubt you will want to mix anything with 50mg of this one pork, it kicks in faster than shrooms, you get first alerts in like 5 minutes, and start to rocket up and peak in like 30-60 minutes, it's a rocket ride. 25mg is a low dose, expect a nice ++. Pot will amplify it greatly as it tends to do with trypts. Total length will be ~6 hours, typical psychedelic after effects.
i think i might drop it tomorrow morning around 10. be coming down by the time my gf gets home (3 or 4). and hopefully not be too burnt out for the laboratory monday morning. first i'll have to make sure i'm not hungover in the morn.. i've got some pot to amplify the effects if i feel necessary. i need to try this stuff and decide if i wanna pick up a half g or so
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