I have showered almost every time that I have took 2ce, it feels so good and it is so much fun. I turn into a little kid when im in there, I just splash the water around and watch the tracers from it. Now all I need is one of those LED shower heads
i don't understand HOW you guys can take such high doses of this stuff...at doses of 12mg for me the muscle tension is unbearable... though i intend to try 16mg oral outside at a festival during the summer...and i'm sure i'll LOVE it but sleeping after 2c-e without some "help" has always been hard for me.
avatar was pretty awesome. yea, i saw it in 3D, in IMAX. i've heard a lot of people criticizing it for having an old/overused storyline or take home message, but it's a good one. i think the movie would have been psychedelic regardless of if i was tripping or not. shermin, are you talking about 12 mg snorted or oral? it's nice to see at least one person agrees with me about taking low doses, but even i wouldn't say that 12 mg gave unbearable muscle tension
i gave 2 of my friends 22mg of 4-aco-dmt [dosed nasally] each before seeing Avitar [in 3d] and they said they weren't sure if it they were sober or out of their minds. hahaha.
Avatar definitely sounds awesome. You people need to listen when we say the "body load" is more tolerable, and even enjoyable, at higher doses.
i only experience body load on the come up or down. it's in the form of slight nausea/gas/stomach pains and temperature fluctuations on the come up. i can deal with that pretty easily though by just staying still the first hour after dosing. on the comedown i sometimes get really painful gas - at least that's what i think it is. my stomach feels in knots, maybe my intestines/GI tract. i also get a dull but persistent headache in the back of my head. it's these after effects that worry me the most. but the trip itself makes my body feel pretty damn amazing
I get hungry during the comedown. Do think that may be what makes your stomach hurt? My stomach hurts sometimes during the comedown, but I just eat a small snack and I'm back in the game. Usually, I just eat some potato chips or something else that's really salty, and that seems to satisfy my needs.
i usually do eat something just cuz i'm hungry. but no, it doesn't feel like that. it feels more like "my stomach is not attached properly to my intestine, or that my GI tract is just fucked in a 2cesarewild kinda way"
Thinking about what happened to 2cesarewild will just make you paranoid. You have to remember....he used to trip on 2ce EVERY WEEK. It's one thing to take it every couple of days for a week or two, like I do when I have 2ce, but tripping on 2ce every week, for god knows how long, is just asking for trouble. The only reason he had problems was because of all of the vomiting he did, anyway. Perhaps you should start using ginger when you ingest 2ce. It supposedly works wonders, and it may actually reduce the negative effects you get.
yea i tried ginger once by nibbling small amounts of it, and making it into tea i didn't eat much of it b/c of the taste though maybe grind some up and cap it. eat before dosing i usually end up dosing kinda spontaneously and don't have stuff like that ready and yea, i don't trip nearly as often as he probably did. but sometimes i can't help wondering..
Yeah if you're gonna eat ginger, it'd be best to grind it and cap it. lol I know it's hard not to wonder about what happened to 2cesarewild and think that it could happen to you. It COULD happen, but you'd probably have to take 2ce a helluva lot more often than you do for that shit to happen.
He started having problems with his GI tract and his intestines. At least, I think that's what was wrong with him. FYI......he has a kickass 2ce trip report on Erowid under the name "Likwid".
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=39220 that's the report... but fresh ginger fights nausea MUCH better than dry...i keep mine in the freezer. then grate up some of it in a cheese grater and swallow about a blob of the stuff about the size of three peas...just toss it in the back of my mouth then chug it down with water.