The only people I know (in real life) that really liked 2ci were people that had tripped less than a dozen times.
Again, I'm interested in 2cb for the sensual nature of the compound, not for how intense of a trip it is. 2ci provided absolutely nothing of that nature. No mood change, no tactile enhancement, no introspection. 2ci would not be my choice as a sex drug, but have heard 2cb is very sexual, so I think you may be wrong there. That, to me, would be a quality making the chemical worth exploring. It sounds like it has a much greater impact on the user emotionally than 2ci does from many other's reports.
Yeah, I definitely get that 4aces is a rough introduction to trypts, aside from a single underwhelming "trip" with p. cubes months back shortly after stopping SSRIs I shouldn't make such a generalization until I've had more experience with trypts. From my little experience however, I definitely can see they have a lot to offer, perhaps even more than PEAs, especially in the way of more profound and spiritually moving experiences I think you will enjoy 2c-i, it's very "candy" to me, even though I'm not yet able to compare it to 2c-b. You are familiar with the body load of PEAs so that won't be an issue for you, a few pieces of crystalized ginger on the comeup will fix you right up. I think it provides a very malleable trip, giving you the option to take it inward if you like or to be in a more social setting and just chill and have a good time. I feel like the visuals lack significance compared to 2c-e, but as long as you take 2c-i in a more casual or fun atmosphere and don't expect to have a profound and soul-shaking experience you will enjoy it
2c-b for sure. I like 2c-i but -b is better. However, 2c-i and 2c-e is a truly incredible combination with fantastic synergy. I would say 2c-i/2c-e combo is pretty close if not equal to 2c-b, but they are definitely different experiences.
B all the way. 2ci is a suitable replacement for B if its unavailable but just keep looking if you think it isn't. 2cb + 2ci > 2cb though very nice combination. I think 2cb combines with just about anything pretty well, although with 4-aco it seemed pretty lamevs each compound idividually ime
I had a bad reaction to 2c-i + 4-aco, bad physical side effects and the worst/hardest trip I ever had. I have to try 2c-i + 2c-e again sometime, I tried it once or twice shortly after coming off SSRIs and found it unimpressive compared to each chem on its own, but I'm sure it was just my screwed up brain chemistry. 2c-i + 2c-b sounds amaaaazing, but I have yet to try b itself.
i've had a problem with 4-aco + methylone. i stood up got a head rush that went away but then it came back and went away a couple times before i almost fell down going to the bathroom. probably was due to laying down for extended periods of time but it was the only 2 things i've combined and had unexpected side effects. i'd like to try 2ce someday to see what is so unique about it but it will probably be a while before i do. 2cb + I is very synergetic from visuals to body high to comedown. the stimulation from the 2ci is mellowed out by the 2cb, while the visuals take on a character of both with waviness and fractals. definately a worthwhile combination if you have them both.
Hahah i'm not wrong about anything, It's my experience. I've taken both numerous times, I prefer 2cb overall, but I certainly think 2ci is worthy of exploration which is my only point. I've seen people's faces light up on 2ci unlike anything else besides maybe MDMA and LSD. I've given the same person 20 mgs of 2ci and then subsequently 20mgs 2cb another trip and they claimed 2cb was a somewhat weak trip. Set and setting cannot be stressed strongly enough, i've had very visual, emotionally moving experiences on 2ci just like on 2cb, I've also had very non visual rather mundane experiences on both. Even on LSD i've had very non visual, stimulating experiences. When I saw Shpongle on 2ci I felt very erotic more so than I ever have on 2cb. The fact that you first compared it to MDMA then tried to compare it to LSD exhibits how versatile this compound is. That being said I'm not expecting an LSD trip when I take 2ci I take it and enjoy it for what it is rather than what it's not.
smitty just meant you might be wrong about him not liking 2cb, or thinking it's weak. although that's my bet too
I read somewhere that if you combine 2c-e and 2c-i together they would react somehow and could result in death due to vasoconstriction or something. Is this some random piece of misinformation I read somewhere on the web or is there any validity to this? Since i have now seen 2 people indicate that they have combined these together, one in large quantities over long periods of time, I would assume my information was false. Can anyone verify either way? Thanks.
IME, there is no contest here...2c-b WINS. if you say 2c-b is too weak, TAKE A HIGHER DOSE. 100mg is still a reasonable dose
Thanks for the info. Also as a side note, this is the third time I've done 2ci and for some reason when I eat eggs first I get very nauseous and have vomited both times, and I don't usually get very nauseous. The second time i ate a larger quantity AFTER i vomited than I did before with the eggs, the seconds time on an empty stomach (since i just emptied its contents) and I had practically no nausea. Is it possible the 2c-i reacts with something in the eggs or something?
eggs are just one of those foods you should avoid on chems that can make you barf, they are rich and complex
Hmm ok thanks for the advice. I had eaten eggs before prior to eating 2cp and it seemed to help with the nausea I assumed because it takes a while to digest so it might make it so the chemical is absorbed over a longer time. After eating eggs then doing 2cp I had some nausea but no vomiting, while when I ate some after just having a bowl of cereal I was vomiting after about an hour. I guess 2ci is different for some reason.
You eat eggs? Wow, I would never choose eggs, that sounds terrible honestly haha. Not much of a fan of eggs period, so I'd never eat them before dosing. I eat approximately 2-3 hours before I dose a PEA because I don't usually eat much or at all while tripping, so I like to prepare my body. Usually something relatively healthy and small, with little to no spice and grease. A 6inch Subway sandwich (the 5gs of fat ones) is a safe bet, or just grill a skinless chicken breast at home.