27 Dead in Mass Shooting at Elementary School in Newton, CT

I can't imagine what makes anyone feel justified to do such a horrible thing. I don't understand why that person felt they had the right to take children lives. My heart goes out to all those suffering. May one day you find peace

 

This chap was atypical then. He came from a wealthy 'to do' family and more than likely had every opportunity in life he could wish for. People will know doubt say this guy was a 'tortured soul' and a his genius set him apart from his peers - etc etc blah blah blah. He had a brother who didn't turn out to be a homicidal maniac.

I have heard that: 'societies where people feel they are treated fairly and there is general good will (I suspect) have much less of this type of violence and violence generally' - which sounds like it might generally be to true given other mitigating circumstances and the persons state of mind. In other words - it's a bit of an excuse, imho.

I would say the US and the UK have similar inequalities etc etc etc - do you see the same thing here that often? Where else in the world does this happen often?

Are most Americans treated that unfairly and the good will that low?
Imho, and it might be a generality too, is that Americans are fed 'the American dream', and that if they stay in school there will be a great job for life afterwards - high expectations.

 

Profiles

http://stream.wsj.com/story/connecticut-school-shooting/SS-2-122485/SS-2-123579/?mod=e2fb

Pictures

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ims-gunned-Adam-Lanza-school-Connecticut.html

 

OMG .....Yeah it was 16 years ago.....according the the Feds only 30 murders from guns in Oz last year whereas in 1979 the figure was 705.......there are of course more people being murdered by knives and other means now as well.........I think access to guns can result in a more immediate reaction using those types of weapons......

 

I don't know the details about this particular guy, and I'm reluctant to reach any conclusions about this case because the media hasn't necessarily done a good job fact checking before they publish

it's a mistake, however, to assume that if someone is from a wealthy family that they are not traumatized or fucked up in some way. some of the most fucked up people you'll ever meet are from wealthy families

in my personal experience, working class communities seem to be more friendly and functional than rich ones. I think that there have also been studies showing that people living in working class communities are happier than those living in wealthy communities (at least in the us).

the fact that his brother didn't turn out to be a homicidal manic is meaningless. two people living in the same community or even the same home can have completely different experiences.

is good will really that low in america? well, in parts of it, yes.

I don't think that this necessarily means that the community was "bad" in this case, that's not the point. I certainly don't think that this guy had an excuse to behave the way that he did

however, part of the reason why shooting sprees have become so common in the us, imho, is that we have an increasingly alienated and predatory social landscape. the kind of glue that keeps communities together has broken down.

why would things like this happen more often in the us than in the uk? I don't know all of the reasons. I'm suspect stricter gun control laws are a factor. there are surely also differences in the social landscape between our two countries

but shit happens in the uk too


for example, last year's riots

 

Those statistics aren't accurate

 

We live in a toxic mix of way too many guns (but like Scratcho, I thought seriously about carrying today); a constant barrage of soul-numbing violence - as in network TV and God only knows what kind of weird shit is happening on cable and in video games; incivility among far too many people from national leaders to internet forums; not to mention, weirdness in the culture and of course, individuals. We have different boundaries and normals. I knew we'd crossed a line when Jonestown happened. Evil is part of reality.

An outpouring of grief and bewilderment - of course. But what we really need is an outpouring of community.

 

My firgures are actually accurate....... thank you for your interest

 

He was obviously going nuts probably VERY suicidal thinking he should end these young lives so they don`t grow up & become suicidal or something.. still HORRIBLE...... but I bet he was so fucked up he thought he was saving those people & himself from a worse future.. even though, the world could get better within those kids` generation. God bless those poor babies.

 

705 in 1979? Bullshit. Simple Bullshit.

 

It is sad to say that all too often we hear about someone killing a relative or significant other and then killing them self. What makes one kill a relative or significant other, then go off and kill strangers (1 to 30 or more people) and then kill them self? I just don't get it. What is it that makes the killer take that extra step?

 

The Answer To This Whole Sad Event Is Simple >>>"MENTAL ILLNESS"...



Cheers Glen.

 

PLEASE SIGN AND SPREAD AROUND ASAP.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...demand-people-be-suicidal-commitment/3CBlV26k
PLEASE SIGN AND SPREAD AROUND ASAP.
REOPEN all CLOSED STATE MENTAL HOSPITALS + don't demand people be suicidal before commitment.
As petioner here i write + beg you to please change the rules for insurance companies + state coverage of mental hospitals. Many youth such as myself found safety + relief back in the 60's + 70's with state mental hospitals. Todays youth are forced to have to admit to suicide before they will be admitted to any mental ward for evaluation. This is wrong. Many youth will not admit this so your forcing a child to suicidal actions. Drug users found recovery in mental wards because they could deal with their issues. Switch funds from prisons to mental hospitals
WIKI = Fairfield State Mental Hospital known as Fairfield Hills State Hospital.. a psychiatric hospital in Newtown, Connecticut, operated from 1931 until 1995 + was closed + patients were transferred to the Connecticut Valley Hospital

 

i could only find australian gun death numbers back to 1988

edit: nevermind, something fucked up with my copy+paste and i'm too lazy to find the numbers again

 

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I don't think such behavior is really unforeseeable.

Video Games - promote wanton violence, and the high that goes along with motor reflex driven fight and flight response. I know ten years ago I was wondering what the fallout was going to be from commercialized wholesale killing.

Music, thug life huh!

Lack of promotion of self realization and stilling, meditation techniques, without the whole religious package. Lighten the people up without weighing them down. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was right about that!

Materialism - parents both work for things neglecting their most precious children, refusing to even acknowledge that they may be able to influence them.

Pederast priests have ruined Catholicism for the whole world's young. And that has cascaded to all other authorities. Who can youth believe in?

Mental health hasn't worked hard enough to understand how the mind works. It only seeks to allay symptoms.

Governments are too interested in controlling other countries instead of nourishing their own.

Basically the whole world is totally fucked and this is what results. Who is going to do anything besides point fingers?

 

Reopening mental hospitals can help but it isn't a cure-all. Some people are very good at hiding their mental illnesses, and those who knew them are shocked when they flip out and kill. And even among the mentally ill only a small minority are truly dangerous.

We can't usually tell who's going to commit murder, let alone mass murder. Most of us have known someone we think is liable to kill someone someday but they never do. We've heard the saying, "It's the quiet ones you need to watch out for", and Adam Lanza was certainly the quiet type, but everyone thought him strange yet harmless. And Ted Bundy and Charles Manson were anything but introverted.

The human mind is extremely complex and in a world of 7 billion people there will be those who lack empathy, conscience and remorse. You never know what might drive someone over the edge.

 

just wondering if someone can change the title. the town is newtown.