24 hour licensing

Wow...It's 3:30am and I'm bored. I could go down the pub! Kickass...

 

i think its a stupid idea and is just gonna make things worse... ellie i agree with you

 

This is all reminiscent of the debate 20 years ago about all-day drinking.

A load of middle-class christians and general do-gooders were moaning about the hordes of drunk working class people that would destroy our society if pubs were allowed open for so long.

Funny thing is it never happened, as they didnt realise this great mass of the unwashed actually had to go to work for a living!

The same bloody reality stands today.

 

1. 'More rapes' -Do you have evidence to support your'e idea that a 'significant' number of rapes in this country are caused by alcohol?

2. 'More muggings'-see above. If a drunk tried mugging a little old lady with a walking stick...I pity the mugger. Heroin/Crack addiction far more likely.

3. 'More crime and pressure on the Police'-perhaps if you'd said the NHS you'd be a bit closer to reality. Can I ask you what you think the Police SHOULD be doing apart from dealing with crime?

Are you related to Mary Whitehouse perhaps?

 

You are right in many ways... I don't think it will impact as much as feared in many places because real life will continue...

However, here in Newquay it has the possibility for a major impact because we are a major holiday destination in the UK... one of the top stag/hen night destinations in the UK... a place where a significant number of people don't have to get up the next day and go to work because they are down here to escape from work for a week and, believe me, many of them behave as if they are living the last day of their lives... and they tend to forget decent standards of behaviour towards those poor fuckers who do have to get up and go to work the next day...

So having the pubs and clubs open all hours will have a major impact upon our lives... and I fear it will have some potentially serious knock effects because I'm already worried about the culture of drink that it presents to the youngsters growing up down here... I've had two students who have died before their 18th birthdays as a result of alcohol related accidents... I've been into pubs and been presented with the sight of 15 year olds pissed (thanks to fake id... I know, I did it when I was young)... so I can't afford to be blase about what may happen down here as a result of possible 24 hour drinking... although I recognise that my concerns are specific to Newquay and not necessarily about the country as a whole...

Fly...

 

I certainly have sympathy with your argument here...BUT(you knew I was going to say that though didnt you!? ) the Cornish cant have it all ways.

If you want tourism to flourish, which as far as I recall from living in the Devon/Cornwall area, is THE major source of local revenue, surely this is beneficial. Of course there are going to be difficulties, but to be blatant about it without being rude, the Cornish are pretty chaotic themselves and always have been!

Cries about the 'grockles and emmits' coming down causing chaos are kind of ridiculous when you depend on them so much.

If Cornish people want their tourism 'a la' Bournemouth style they arent go to do very well!

I also might add that 'drunken yobs' etc is not a new phenomenom, it's just 'this years thing' for the press to exagerate (in my opinion).

For example, I haven't noticed scences in Newquay of hundreds of people frequently fighting on the beaches as they used to in resorts like Brighton etc throughout the 60's and 70's. And I really dont think thats going to happen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/18/newsid_2511000/2511245.stm

The audio here is quite enlightening!

 

The thing is, this is not a loosening of a law on how much people can drink, only when they can drink.
Therefore, it'll still be the same idiots staggering around, except, they won't all be doing it together, and so the police should be better able to handle it better than they handle friday night chucking out time at the moment.

 

Sounds like jolly good fun to me! I'm with Father Jack on this one....

Hopefully by the time 6AM comes all the guys who get violent when drunk will have passed out and be sleeping like babies, probably on the bar or the floor

Im not sure if the bar staff will be able to cope in certain pubs. However i'm sure Wetherspoons and the big chains will be able to cope.

Also I can see this being an insomniacs dream come true

 

it would be alot better say for example if you wanted to go to a party after coming back from clubbing, but instead you wont have to as long as you arebt totally rat-arsed then go to the pub. bring it on life will be so much better

 

Are you drunk now ?.

 

Obviously had an office-outing at lunch

 

It seems so..

but i agree:

'bring it on life will be so much better'

 

Those living in abject terror of 24hr drinking could always get one of these

http://www.usbunkers.com/ .

 

No, you are certainly correct... tourism is the major source of local revenue... I hope I wasn't coming across as "ban tourists" grumpy old fuck... of course it is important to encourage tourism... but Newquay needs to decide exactly what kind of tourism it is seeking to encourage and then plan for it accordingly...

At the moment we can't seem to decide whether we want to appeal to the uk surf community... or whether we want to build on our reputation for being one of the prime stag/hen night spots in the uk... there even seems to be a drive to build Newquay as an increasingly upmarket destination as more hotels are closing down and being replaced by designer holiday apartments for sale... the one thing that we seem to be moving away from is being a family destination (we don't even have a fucking cinema or any other wet weather facilities that aren't pubs, clubs, bars or amusement arcades)...

From what I see, Newquay is now primarily a young person's holiday destination... somewhere they can come fairly cheaply to have a good time getting pissed and hopefully getting off with someone in some club... fine... we all know that alcohol and young adults does not always make the best comibination... can we then at least ensure proper numbers of policing to minimize the impact upon those locals who live in staggerring distance between clubs and hostels?... the pubs and clubs make a staggering amount of money so is it too much to ask that they take some responsibility about the condition of their "patrons" as they leave their establishments?... i know we don't have mass brawls on the beach as in the Brighton riots (which is a bit of a bollocks comparison anyway if you don't mind me saying)... i know drunken yobs are not exatcly a new phenomenon... but is it really okay for everybody to wash their hands of responsibility and say it doesn't matter coz the tourists are bringing in money or whatever?... coz, when you come down to it, this is what this development is about... making money... fuck whatever the government will claim about easing congestion during chucking out time or whatever bollocks they sprout to justify this decision... it is about enabling the already highly profitable alchohol industry to make even more money... and fuck the consequences...

Gotta keep the economy spinning...

Fly...

 

Yet again I do indeed understand where you're coming from and trust me I'm no fan of this government or any other, let alone corporations.

You're between a 'Rock' and a hard place.

On the one hand the Cornish fisherman are going nuts about EU regulations and being put out of business and on the other there's the question of whether certain cash tourism is bad for the communities.

Ofcourse establishments should be forced to do something if there are problems due to pissheads. Thats what communities should do! Sadly nowadays 'communities' are more akin to the readership of a tabloid paper.

Perhaps you should start the revolution down there and set up an anarchist state of Kernow.....I'd come and join you!!

*But on a more serious note, there is also the argument that why should people be legislated against certain actions due to the idiocy of a minority....and you must admit it IS always a minority...no matter what the media says.*

 

It is for sure that drunken violence will increase and when i say the police i sorta mean like all the services including the NHS. With the amounts of inguries that will pass through A&E this department will be far stretched and there will not be enough doctors and nurses to cope with the amount of people. There will not be enough policing either and that is for sure thus resulting in more dangerous streets.

 

You were being specific in a couple of areas....I pointed out I think you're wrong.

The A+E is ALREADY criminally overstretched. Perhaps you should spend your time demanding more doctors and nurses NOW and making sure they are paid properly rather than using some hyperthetical doomsday scenario which doesn't defend their rights in the slightest.

In terms of more dangerous streets...well. Perhaps you dont realise but the majority of people will only experience 'violence' from a stranger no more than once in their entire lifetime.

That isn't the case on working class estates like the one I live on, which although violence isn't an everyday occurence, like the people from the posh side of town believe, it is often just under the surface and behind closed doors, something the police couldn't give a toss about anyway.

We don't tend to see the police very much and quite frankly couldn't give a damn either. Perhaps you'd like a return to the 70's-80's when the police Special Patrol Group were rampaging through the city centres attacking all and sundry...especially if you were black! More police would make safer streets? Really!

And whilst on the subject of dangerous streets and overstretched police resources

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4150386.stm

Anyway,a question. While these pissed up marauding head hunting hordes are rampaging, mugging and rapping their way through our communities throughout the night, shouldn't you be in bed?

Perhaps you ought to buy a crash helmet....

 

Where they hell do you get this crap from???!!! Did you buy a crystal ball off ebay or something?!
NOTHING is for sure. As I've already stated, it's still going to be the SAME idiots getting pissed up. It's going to be the SAME idiots causing the SAME shit. The only differance is they won't all be doing it at the same time, which means the police will be able to deal with it much BETTER.
Clubs open all night will be excellent. Just think of all the morons that won't be on the street thanks to this.
I will finally be able to go out in Birmingham without having to catch the last bastard train at 12.
People who work hard in this country get only 1 or 2 nights a week when they can go out with friends and enjoy themselves, whether they drink or not. It's about bloody time that these people were given the choice about when it's time for bed.
Admittidly, this is all my own opinion, and therefore maybe not quite as valid of the words of one hundred judges, but I stand by it.

 

Hurrah!!:sunglasse

 

I second that HURRAH!!