2020 Election

Old irrational Bernie... He only set the platform for the entire party. Oh, and he's upset at the people who are trying to ruin the country. Could it possibly be that he knows how precarious the situation is? He needs to learn how to play softball with big pharma and the fossil fuel industry like everyone else.

 

The difference is that meteorologists aren't motivated to use polls to determine which kind of weather will be happening. Or the forecast would be fixed at ideal barbecue weather all year long. Then you'd really hate them! But they'd be able to blame it on the ones who polled for thunderstorms and tornadoes.

They use actual data based on similar weather patterns and simply report an educated guess. I don't get the impression of that kind of efficiency from political polling. I think scantily clad weather girls is about the only improvement they can hope to make.

 

It's why I get all my weather from Telemundo.

 

I trust my meteorologist .
I do not trust polling firms any more than I trust politicians.

 

What the reporters, commentators, pollsters, and pundits did in 2016 was an abomination. It was one of the most corrupt things I have ever seen, with playing around with polling methodology and flat out lying about data, apparently because they thought if they kept saying something often enough it would happen, or maybe it was part of some sex magick thing or something of the same general sort with which they were experimenting or who knows what? It is already well known that Bill Clinton consulted a bokor or mambo about the 1992 election and was advised to, amongst other things, wear the same underwear for the entire week before the election, and it apparently worked . . .

Though I do not credit CNN in particular, and other outlets like the New York Times and many others with anything that sophisticated or involved. In fact, CNN seemed to be set on a markedly self-destructive course within an hour of the calling of the election at 07.40 GMT . . . and what are their ratings these days -- down 28, 36, 40 per cent since then?

The end result for the American media and related folks on the whole was egg on their face, about which they are stil in denial, and HRC losing the election because local campaign organisations were lulled into complacency thinking there was no way Trump could get 270 electoral votes. I am familiar with suppression calling, push polling, propaganda techniques and the like, as well as the legitimate science, art, and skilled trade of public opinion research, and what particularly CNN and their minions did was none of those, not even a pathetic attempt at propaganda of the deed -- it really looked like these folks wore their bias right out there for all to see, which is one way to do things, I guess, but they also started to believe their own propaganda, as apparently did parts of the HRC campaign. Somewhere in there were pollsters or others who really had no idea what they were doing, or were doing something completely different and calling it polling.

Other HRC supporters were wasting their energy and time fulminating about Trump, some kind of invisible voter suppression, Senator Bernie Sanders, the Electoral College, Russia, Macedonian hackers, Middle Westerners, angry men, a renegade faction of BLM, or the mythical Democratic vote that stayed home that allegedly would have put HRC over the top if voting were compulsory like it is in the DPRK and old Soviet Union . . . no, no, no, it was the incompetent and stupid well-wishers and shills in media who lost the election for HRC. By keeping up their fiction until the campaign staff and many voters believed it and stayed home or did other things aside from casting a vote for HRC . . .

Fake news, hmmm, well, there are fake journalists -- not everyone who can deposit a comment somewhere is a journalist;. It takes at least four years at university where they teach newswriting and all the rest along with ethics, history of the media, the law of mass communications, proper interview and fact verification techniques, usually all manner of electives in general knowledge as well as potential areas of sub-specialisation like political science, sociology, history, philosophy, science, public opinion research and many more . . . often at least three credit-hours of statistics too . . .

 

Is CNN the enemy of the people? What about Fox and Breitbart? And what is your opinion of the lunatic in the White House?

 

Not sure where you get all this. The brands you list are the ones the right wing has decide to throw a tantrum over for basic human decency. So to you that means they are "left". No one cares about their commercials except Fox news viewers who get offended. I don't feel anything for them. They are marketing. Since the old white man throws his razor in the trash he does two things.

1. gets the brand trending since he HAS to let the internet know he did it
2. Ensures his son will buy the brand since son has many types of friends and does not want to be his dad. If you want a product at 20 you will want it at 60. People pick their brand loyalty young. Dad's views don't matter anymore it's all 18-35's.

The famous one who threw his in the toilet before getting roasted by Twitter said he had the razor for 20 years too. So in other words you admit how good it is? Gillette was trending for weeks after that and sales never went down.

There are also examples of companies going for the Fox vote. Saying as you said "we share your views so pay us" and guess what Fox people have gone out of their way to do that. When Yeti was the Fox tantrum topic other coolers stepped in and said we like guns like you. It's the same idea.

For all your free market love you don't get marketing at all. They want to be your "friend" not a product. This goes back to the 1920's when modern marketing took off.

Him not doing that is what makes him who he is. All his other party have decided they will water down his message and have the same old crap. The 1% will make money since it's the only way for capatilsim to exist. They need to play ball with him. That's why the media still works so hard to shame him. If the 99% really accepted the idea we have power and this does not mean poverty or the USSR it's terrifying to the elites.

 

If it's a democrat, they will have to govern by EO, to undo all the damage trump has done.

 

The latter two didn't need to change course -- what CNN has done is markedly self-destructive and has no real visible justification. MSNBC was already the channel of advocacy of record just like FNC is on the objectivist, quasi-libertarian Right, such as it is . . .

If nothing else, at least Mr Trump has a short attention span, and any US President not poking Russia with a stick is a good thing for both, and everyone caught in betwixt. His transgressive behaviour and commentary are all on the side of social issues, which these days are nothing but a distraction, so that can be set aside at least for the moment. The only reason I would say he could be any kind of improvement on HRC is that we saw that when she was put in the State Department by BHO to set her up to fail, she started five more wars, and so far Trump was goaded into sending missiles into Syria once, very early, and apparently started having doubts because he didn't do it again. Obama, HRC, and Trump all appear to be on the side of filling the equity markets with hot air to make themselves look better, so the bigger crash to complete the work of the Panic of 2008 is still on schedule, I am sure . . .

The taste for blood and implicit or explicit Slavophobia, anti-Shi'ite bias and all the rest of everyone from Brian Williams to John Bolton can have any number of reasons, but if there are people left on the Earth 50 years from now, history will look at them very harshly I am sure . . . they may be as mystified by Trump as are most people who take a deep breath and look at it more calmly now . . . which is in one line is my opinion of Trump -- the whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense . . .

 

I will say this for Trump: He is very violence averse.

I think deep down it's because he's a little wimpy crybaby, but no matter. It works for me.

 

That is, if he doesn't lead us into war by accident. His policies actions toward Iran have just that potential. The guy is a bull in the proverbial China shop, and the sooner he leaves office, the better I'd feel.

 

It's a little bit of a struggle, him wanting to look tough and also keeping up the appearance of being above physical violence, as if that's the reason he shies away from it.

 

He reflects the complexity of his base--posturing toughness and America First, but also isolationist and wanting to avoid contact with "ferriners"--not to be confused with hippie peaceniks.

 

Trump was just born and bred to be a weasel. He's scared to death of physical altercation. That's one of the things I can't understand about his base, how they can't see this. They just equate it with being a peaceful person, but I guarantee you, if Trump was a behemoth, he'd be the biggest bully on the block. In a way it's a good thing he's so pampered.

 

Oh please continue this kind of analysis. It's humorous. Reminds of when people said "Bush doesn't even have a brain" or they called him the "Chimperor" (it's not "racist" to compare honkies to primates, apparently).

None of that mattered and he won a second term (regardless of how he got in the first time).

It's like watching history repeat itself.

What's really funny is the speculation that Michelle will suddenly become a candidate for the top seat. Seems like a better plan would be to run Barack again. It wouldn't be consecutive, especially in 2024!

If it wasn't for all the leftist hostility and violence, this round of American politics would be hilarious.

 

I recall him being a much better president than our current guy. The President has had too much to drink or something...

But anyway, yeah. At least President George W. Bush wasn't a tyrant. I didn't care for the way he referred to Mexicans though. I recall this one time seeing him talk on TV (i know people can go on and on about seeing President Bush speak on TV, but I won't) and he said these words "the Mexican". I don't recall the context but I didn't like the tone or the accent.

Anyway, he wasn't so bad. He was president at the time of the 9/11 attacks I think. That's what I remember most I guess. He spoke a lot about our country and had to send troops and all that.

Don't tell me. I have the dates wrong? It's possible. I was raving my ass off during that presidency (2002-2004 at least).

I don't think he was a honky @************. Probably just Texan or something. I have family in Texas. And it's not hard to imagine him having been exposed to racism, or even picking up on some of it just having lived in an area where it may be prevalent or during such an era. Anyway, far be it from me to be a Bush apologist. I'm not aware of his malfeasance but whatever it is, it's better than this!

 

What will really work though, is if Barack dumps Michelle and forms a 3-way relationship with Buttigieg and his husband. It'd be carried by the media for it's "making history" appeal as the world's first "Manag'eStration"!!!

Buy AstroGlide stock folks!

 

Naaa, Trump doesn't drink. Which is not uncommon for a psychopath, they generally don't like being disabled by it.

 

Bush was a tyrant. He's the guy that lied about WMD's to take over Iraq, and probably one of the "masterminds" (term used very loosely) of 9/11. He used the attacks to try and strip people of civil liberties and unite us in a phony nationalism under the "War on Terror." All in all, he's a spoiled brat like Trump, but not quite so pampered. His dad was old school, having served in WWII. Donald, on the other hand, is strictly a pansy.

The only reason Donald stands a chance this election is because the Democratic base is just like their bully leaders. They always think we need someone hard-nosed in office. Biden is a shitty candidate just like Hillary, so Trump still stands a chance. If the Democrats had any real values, they'd unite behind someone like Bernie or Warren. If the Democrats were united, Trump wouldn't stand a chance. You just can't expect half the base to get excited about someone who doesn't really represent so-called Democratic ideals though; i.e. Biden.

The thing that really disturbs me about Trump is his cultlike base. There really are people among us who think he was chosen by Jesus Christ to be our savior. He's making patently stupid look profitable, and I am concerned for what four more years under this guy is going to be like...the sheer hubris he gives to the lowest IQ's among us. It will really take the wind out of Democrats' sails. Or, they'll panic. Neither will be pretty, but Biden should have never run in the first place, so, if he loses, it will only be them to blame.

 

Trump is a wimp - can't even best an eagle !!!