2020 Election

Government and corporations are the same thing when you get down to it.

You're right actually, they DO play a huge impact in elections. That's why big tech is altering search results, and silencing the voices of those who pose a threat. Among many other sick twisted things they do.

Leftists be all like, "Facebook, Google, Starbucks, Nike, Twitter, Gillette, MTV, Burger King, ESPN, Disney, and Neflix all share the same views as me. But I hate corporations and I'm anti-establishment"

 

If there was one thing I'd change about the meme, it would be to change communism to socialism in the left square. It would make it more accurate. Sort of.

But adopting Denmark's economic system is a form of cultural appropriation!! You can't do that. The Danish are a proud culture, and it is wrong to steal from them.

My social studies professor said so.

 

I certainly don't, I think she knows what's up with the Post-Modern Techno-Industrial Megastate and how bad it has gotten since it was just the Military Industrial Complex back in the Ike days -- some people are scared about losing their gravy train and/or their ability to kill people like they are playing Astro Warrior or Space Invaders and shit. . . and I think there is jingoism and Slavophobia behind a lot of it in addition to greed and thinking everyone in the Near East looks the same so kill em all, the same attitude that some of the same folks had about the former Yugoslavia, crude things like that . . . that bias is the real thing, not a lazy meaningless pejorative or a meaningful one misused in an unforgivable way like throwing 'anti-Semite" at Trump and calling Ms Gabbard a homophobe . . .

No, no she isn't (neither is Trump, and why are at least 99 ⁴⁴⁄ ₁₀₀ per cent of the people who make either accusation not members of the LGBT&Q+ community? Actually, I cannot think of anyone who is in The Community who made the accusation off the top of my head, nearly as I can tell) -- Cong Gabbard was, as with many things, provided with both sides of issues and chose the progressive one, which is why she is a progressive Democrat somewhere to the left of Angela Merkel. . . which makes her perfect as a candidate in my humble opinion. And how can she be a homophobe when her husband is a closet case Size Queen according to the word on the street? That is an example of a sophisticated, high-resolution, deep thinker who knows her arse from a hole in the ground, which some of the candidates do not.

What I like best is the way Ms Gabbard ambuscaded Senator Harris in the second debate and laid it all out . . . after all, Ms Harris ambuscaded Mr Biden with a 50-year old issue, a deep and thorny one and important of course, so why was she pissed off? Her pinhead communications director who fired off those tweets about Mr Biden telling her to go easy on him was the most flabbergasting thing -- she should take a lesson from HRCs 2016 campaign, where a totally cracked communications director made for lots of trouble and made lots of HRC supporters myself included quite embarrassed when she had a meltdown when debating Kellyanne Conway on live television and radio a couple of days later . . . Senator Harris just whines too much and seems to have trouble with the truth some times, not a good precedent to follow . ..

I asked some folks about bussing who were on both sides of the debate back then . . . the onetime opponents and sceptics told me that they were concerned about the end of neighbourhood schools for a number of reasons, and both sides of the issue included folks of a number of ethnicities . . . one said she used to think that "what will it accomplish just having the kids go all that way to sit next to kids who look different" back then in the early 1980s but that it was pretty clear by five, 10 certainly 15 years later, at least in their locale, that the integration programme actually worked, and they can't be sure if it was the chicken, the egg, or unrelated, but housing started to integrate more or less spontaneously in both the source and destination neighbourhoods within a few years of the beginning of bussing, thereby solving the underlying problem as well. The two schools involved in the bussing are some of the better in town . . . the high school into which they feed also has had something like a 50-point jump in SAT scores in that time, and the school board tends to look to the pair of schools as an exemplar as they try to untangle the issue of minority achievement gaps which remain. One's mileage may vary as they say -- I also once discussed what another city was doing with some folks from the Urban League and they called it a boondoggle that just created more greenhouse gases . . .

It appeared to me that what Mr Biden was trying to do as a young man new to the US Senate all those years ago was more along the lines of allowing for more wiggle room in the "how" so that different situations in different locales could be accommodated in ways that worked the best, not questioning the "why" as did a number of sceptics and opponents of various types. It was about a half century ago that the debate began and the methodology for fixing the de facto segregation was generally set -- I believe Swann et al v the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Board of Education was 1971 and bussing and magnet schools were the two most common methods of implementing it.

I do not think anything Senator Harris did in either debate cleared up the matter or did anything truly constructive. It just made her look unpleasant and toxic.

I've got a video game for the warmongers who are piling on Ms Gabbard an oldie but goodie: Plausible Deniability Arkanoid -- the paddle moves by itself with no control from the keyboard, joystick, mouse, trackball, or roller controller and knocks out bricks and so forth and there is nothing the player can do to modify what is happening. The warmongers and war profiteers and Slavophobes who are so upset about Ms Gabbard are also such control freaks that their heads would explode. The other one that comes on that disc is New Conflict of Interest Pac-Man -- it is a more peaceful and productive version, since Pac-Man collaborates with the blue ghost, including having sex . . . given the vicious rhetoric I always hear about collusion, which they are trying to make stick to Ms Gabbard too now, that would make them goller and rip out their hair . . . The video games come with James Bond 0069 Coup d'État Office and I recall the source code being posted on Usenet in the spring of 1999 . . . 0069 CDEO includes tools one can add to Microsoft Office, Corel Wordperfect Office, or Lotus SmartSuite and Notes and a number of stand-alone e-mail programmes and other software to, amongst other things, correspond with your e-mail and/or WinPopup or telnet or wall(1) lover without people being able to spy on you and cause problems , , , and a configurable universal "boss" button so that, if your boss does not want you to play Solitaire or surf the net and do bulletin boards and newsgroups or use, for example, Charge d'Affaires SneakMail & WinPopup Manager and other tools, you can hit one button and make just about any programme disappear and make something else come up in Windows, Dos, Unix/Linux, or OS/2 and then make it come back when the coast is clear . . . of course if your WinPopup/e-mail/instant message lover *is* your boss, he or she probably wouldn't mind, right? After all, lots of people love transgressive behaviour like starting flame wars and screwing around with computer games on the clock, writing destructive macros, and snorting C-Jam and Dilaudid off their boss' tits or vice versa and having sex on a desk or table or in a van in the car park every once in a while, right?

 

I don't know.

 

Seems to be a minority opinion. I suspect Gabbard's defense of Assad will put her out of the running for President, if she were ever in it to begin with. She's currently trailing Harris in the polls (1.4 % to &.7.4 % , respectivley), and will have to go some to make it to the debate stage again in December. I doubt that Putin's bromance with Trump is over, so Tulsi may have serious competition for the Russian vote.

 

Good catch there, Dice

Don’t want the Free Shit Fairy spreading too much propaganda

 

That's what it looks like, yes . . .

Harris' 7.4 per cent is therefore an 11.1 per cent dip from the day after the first debate, when she was in second place for less than 24 hours . . . more and more polls are showing Senators Warren and Sanders within the margin of error essentially tied for second place last I looked. I thought Senator Booker would have moved up more than he did as his debate performances were both excellent.

Especially with the reappearance of moderate Democrats in the 2018 election for Congress, it is unfortunate that one very clear moderate, former Governor and Denver Mayor and brewer John Hickenlooper, was the latest to drop out.

At some point somebody really does have to have all of the candidates on the stage at the same time, even if they only get a couple of questions, or the debate goes for six hours or has to be divided into two nights, And none of these slippery ruiles to try to exclude certain people -- put all 33 of them up there.

In re Russia, one could do worse than turn down the temperature in a relationship with a country with an even bigger nuclear arsenal pointed at the United States and Nato . . . I think Bill Clinton and Bush XLIII did what they could in this respect, but President Obama, with probably the highest intellectual wattage of any president since Jefferson perhaps, inexplicably temporised, gaffed, wasted time, and delegated to folks who didn't know what they were doing, and somehow got sold a bill of goods and a pig in a poke on this "Arab Spring" business, which is the root of a lot of this. All of those people should have remembered that other seasons of the type like in Czechoslovakia in 1968, Croatia in 1971 when it was a province of the second Yugoslavia, and the 1956 insurrection in Hungary failed and there wasn't a lot the West could do in those cases either, unfortunately. It took another 21 years for things to simmer and blow up, even with countries like Roumania, Yugoslavia, and Albania which took on Stalin and his successors after what they did and other such things.

Getting rid of Mubarak certainly created a mess . . .

In any case, Congresswoman Gabbard topping the Google search races after the two debates means that she achieved the goal she originally set, which was to bring up issues of non-intervention and the like because no one else in either party would, excepting Trump, who it turns out really is an isolationist and protectionist, which infuriates the warmongers and greedheads, and since there are those on the right and off the political spectrum altogether who are troubled by, for example, things Trump has said about Mexicans, there is finally the possibility of fusion betwtixt the non-interventionists on the left and right.

Also the US-India relationship is virtually ignored by both parties although the Obama administration including HRC did make a ;point of antagonising Modi, and Bush XLIII wasted a lot of opportunities when he was in office . . . and then look what happens -- Osama bin Laden well protected and living like, well, if not a king like an Alderman in Chicago, within line of sight of Pakistan's equivalent of West Point and protected by the ISI, notorious for its malfeasance of all sorts. Most of the other candidates probably have no idea of what the score in South Central Asia really is and it is a damn shame. The Indian public and a lot of the government is actually more pro-Israel than the US, Canada, and the UK now, so New Delhi could help out with those issues as well and smooth things a bit to what extent they could be dealing with Iran . . . and Washington really needs some new some critical thinking on the Fiver Shi'ite Houthi genociding, Pakistan nuclear proliferation enabling, beheading & infibulating crew in Saudi Arabia -- Jesus Christ . . with allies like that, who needs enemies? And how many Saudis were on those aeroplanes during the abominations of 11. September 2001? It was 17 of 19 was it not, the rest from Yemen I think.

It is very similar to Mr Yang running on the automation issue -- no one else would touch it. Everything else Ms Gabbard achieves from this point on is gravy in the original frame of reference.

Messrs Inslee and Castro also have brought up important issues everyone else would ignore if they could. Trying to make herself look like she is doing the equivalent for the me too crowd is probably going to sink Ms Gillibrand early because the crowd is already split at least six ways and it is big and diverse enough crowd and a multifaceted issue so I doubt there is actually a me too vote per se . . . it is all too bad too because she is brilliant and sensible and showed both in Congress all this time , , , and a calmer demeanour at the debates and broader set of issues would have made a difference, Funny as it may have been, the Clorox the Oval Office comment was a political stink palm, and arguably about as mature, unfortunately. Everyone knows who Mr Trump is and what the complaints are -- what are the candidates for? All 20 candidates seemed to lose focus versus the first debate, except one or two maybe . . . also the first debate they really tried and succeeded in giving Ms Gabbard the least possible time, so the two debate performances were maybe apples and oranges -- despite CNN trying even harder, she busted out and let people have it. It was beautiful.

it is also important to remember that Trump in 2016 didn't even move the needle on the GOP gender gap versus 2012, and he actually got something like 0.7 per cent more of the African American vote -- the candidate has to work for every vote and not take groups of voters for granted, which is what drained away a lot of the 2018 blue tsunami that was supposed to be coming. Is it also possible that the Democrats won the House of Representatives also because Nancy Pelosi was a good Speaker of the House? I certainly think so; I don't think the pro or anti-Trump voters who had that as the main issue thought the issue through deeply enough for that result to have been caused by Trump alone. On the other hand, it looks like a big dip in the Chican@, Latin@ and other Hispanic/Ibero-American vote cost Trump the popular vote -- not that these groups can be taken for granted either . . .

What effect Trump's policies have on the Arab American vote, which is a large plurality or a majority Christian, and the American Muslim vote in 2020 actually is a mystery as much as it seems that it ought not to be, and it is big and growing rapidly, and the one thing that can be said about this demographic is that they tend to be excellent conscientious citizens and do turn out to vote -- Democrats also cannot take these folks for granted, either.

Actually the Bashar al-Asad business was not advocacy but more healthy, and as it turned out, justified, scepticism . . . one of the earliest reports on this Syrian conflict, which was partially precipitated by the fecklessness of American politicians from the late John McCain to people who certainly knew better, like HRC and President Obama. Ms Gabbard rightly also points out that the most recent Democratic administration, led by a Nobel Peace Prize winner, went from two imperialist régime change wars to seven , , , in my opinion, the hot air pumped into the stock markets from 2009 onward notwithstanding, I think BHO should have received the Economics prize instead and long about 2015-2016 rather than before taking office.

The chemical attack that was attributed to the Syrian government was at a time, place, and stage in the war (very early) that there was a maximal chance of the attack being seen and documented by journalists, NGOs and other folks of the same sort . . . and there was really no strategic reason for them to have done so.

Pretty much all of the mainstream American media was singing the same tune, but the most shocking thing I remember from earlier in the conflict was the tendentiousness and manifest sloppiness of Anderson Cooper's reports on an alleged Syrian government chlorine attack which affected both rebel and government-held areas early in the conflict, but late enough that the two industrial sites in Syria which produced chlorine gas had been out of government control since the first weeks of the conflict, and even at that early time European, Near Eastern, South Asian, Pacific Rim, South American, and other media was much less inclined to do such things, with it being an American thing that had limited spillover into Canadian and British news sources. And of course Al Jazeera and other Saudi controlled or aligned sources, Al Jazeera being run by the government of Qatar, which was by no means neutral,

Of course RT, Itar-Tass, Izvestia, Pravda, the Literaternaya Gazeta and the like were much less biased ab initio, which is part of the reason Russia gets thrown into the same bin by those people, One critical question few asked is: why is a country which has fourth-generation nerve agents, the most recent lung and blister agents, not to mention a nuclear programme which Israel bombed in 2007 going to need to use the original, most primitive chemical weapon of all, which they did not stock as a weapon and could not have obtained in large quantities quickly at the time the attack happened?

In conclusion, al-Asad is one bad dude, but the programme of Isis and their allies should they have taken over the whole country included wiping out everyone like him (Alawites) and other Shia, Yazidis, Druze, Christians, Kurds, Circassians, Persians, Azeris, Armenians, secular folks, fire worshippers, surely the tiny itty bitty but ancient Jewish community left in Damascus, and all sorts of others, as well as trying to suck in ground troops from the United States and the West so as to kill them, and having the Americans kill enough Isis people to precipitate the Apocalypse, as an expert told the Atlantic, Der Spiegel, and other outlets practically all the way back in the beginning . . . . Per their very name and ideology, after taking over Syria and Iraq, since they consider Lebanon part of the same thing and/or part of Syria itself (as well as Jordan, Israel, a large area of Turkey, the Sinai Peninsula, a chunk of Saudi Arabia, Cyprus, Kuwait &c) so the next thing they would do in such a case is invade Lebanon and create even more trouble for Israel and Jordan

To be perfectly candid, all that and the involvement of Al Qaida would have been enough to warrant at least sending the Syrian government, the Peshmerga, the PKK, the SSNP, and Hizbullah some night vision equipment and a couple of drones and maybe some of that spray they invented in the Second World War that makes someone smell like shit if it gets sprayed on them. Even earlier, since the Syrian Ba'athists had lots of trouble with Saddam Hussein -- why not have the Syrian armed forces and/or Mukhabarat just whack him and parachute some gold bars outside Damascus in the dead of night for a consulting fee? Hell, a lot of those people really had trouble with Al Qaida and the Taliban too -- whatever happened to simplicity and efficiency? Or desist. Fix domestic problems first and explore neutrality and peace . . . look how much good it has done Switzerland, Sweden, Austria . . .

 

I just think people should be intelligent enough to understand any government program is tax payer funded. Sorry I overestimated your intelligence

 

Wether he believes his own points or not, he's basically just trying to get a rise out of 'leftists' with his posts regarding socialism on the last few pages. The same old charged drivel that has been thoroughly corrected and debunked several times already. Just sayin, you could probably spare yourself some time

 

I'm pretty sure he does. Two days ago he said anyone who believes in taxation is a cuckold.

How one can hold such a hardcore libertarian view, and also support a president who has increased the deficit to $1 trillion dollars a year is beyond my compression.

Report shows US deficit to exceed $1 trillion next year

For fun with context, if you stalked that vertically, that's 67,866 miles. One quarter of the way to the moon!

 

I had to get one last burn in

 

What country are you from?

 

My question for readers today is, will cuck-servatives turn out for Trump this time around ?

 

My prediction is that Trump will get fewer votes than last time around. But if he's going against Biden, that may not mean much. Biden doesn't exactly inspire people to vote. If it were Sanders it would be a different story.

 

After my short stint liking Beto O'Rourke, I have decided that good 'ole Joe is number one again. I think he has true potential as a leader and requisite experience to boot.

 

I think I'm voting for Elizabeth Warren. It took me a bit to warm up to her, she's of a nerdy policy wonk. But I think I could use some sane boring years after Trump.

Democrats won't get the Senate in 2020 I think. The republicans will lose another 20 seats in the house. Whoever the president is will have to govern by executive order.

 

She seems more rational than Bernie.

Unfortunately, You might be right

Not so sure about that.

 

So here we go again with the predictions. Funny stuff.
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Which is considered socialism if a Democrat does it...

If it's a Republican it's okay, apparently.

 

Do you think any attempt to make predictions is flawed in principle?

I kinda hate meteorologists, so I guess I get it.