2020 Election

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  1. new Athenian

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    Thank you !
    Wall Street owns our government , sad but true.
     
  2. What doesn't add up is how the wealthy classes hope to survive if the system implodes. Sure they have massive compounds (the Bush family has one in South America), but those have to be staffed to be secure and it's questionable how many could be run successfully as independent, self-sufficient operations.

    But then again, they only have to bank on a matter of months to a year or so. There will be a big die-off as the infrastructure fails. A lesser one as anarchy leads to marauders and opportunists. Then some sort of trade system will set in and resources will beget a tenuous peace.

    That's when the compound dwellers will come out and try to tell the rest of us what to do since they were in charge once.
     
  3. McFuddy

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    That’s quite the dystopian nightmare you’ve dreamed up.
     
  4. new Athenian

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    Don't look now but infrastructure is failing and fast , there's billions in needed repairs nationwide and little will to do it.

    As for the coming collapse it's inevitable since plain common sense suggests we cannot continue to heap trillions in debt upon existing debt on a global basis that is. It's also producing tax and banking policy that are if anything admissions of the economic failure of fiat currency.

    In the event of upheaval large cities are most vulnerable with millions unable to feed or support themselves they would in that event travel to the countryside and begin taking what they need by force. Rural Americans are far more knowledgeable about surviving, growing food, etc.

    Personally I suspect a barter system would quickly spring up in the event money doesn't work.

    For readers who've forgotten 2008 was when credit froze globally, in other words liquidity dried up practically overnight, unfortunately most systemic problems were merely renamed, shuffled around and/or swept under the rug and the FED pumped about 4 trillion into the major banks to restore lost liquidity. The system was not fixed at that time and is in far worse shape namely because politicians of both stripes lacked the political will and courage to do what needed to be done.

    Gird your loins !
     
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  5. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    LOL, China knows damned well we can stiff them if we choose, and never pay them back. They loaned us the money hoping we wouldn't cut them off, which Donald Duck has done anyway. Cutthroat poker with money, but the US has all the guns at the table.
     
  6. It's not an original idea, I've seen it about the web in some odd spots.
     
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    I have carpal tunnel if I did this all day.
     
  8. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Anyone aware of this?

    Mike Gravel 2020 Campaign for President - End the American Empire

    This is nuts. Former Alaska senator at the age of 89 is trying to join the race. He will be 90 if elected to office.

    He did run in 2008, and he was probably the only one on the democrat side that I had any respect for in those days. In the Bush years, hearing about withdrawing troops from all needless wars and legalizing all drugs was music to my ears. Heck, in those days I might've voted for him in the primaries if Ron Paul didn't run that year. His fiscal and global government policies are shit though.
     
  9. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    In modern day Babylon, its either laugh or cry, so you take your humor where you can get it.
     
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  11. Just another example of the media smearing Sanders. He gave a list of reasons why she was gaining in popularity, among them the fact that she is a woman, which is important to some voters. And that is true. But according to the article, "Bernie says Warren is popular only because she's got ovaries."
     
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  12. wooleeheron

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    The media gets paid for entertaining people, and there's only so much they can do with Bernie.
     
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  13. Kinda sounds like his style. He's sometimes as gaff-tastic as Joe.
     
  14. Nicomorphinst

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    I like crowded and raucous campaigns for everything, so I'm glad he is in because I want to see the "Democratic Clown Car" and its Republican, Libertarian, Green, Peace & Freedom, American Solidarity and other equivalents all pushing 100.

    But as far as the lone voice of anti-imperialism, it seems Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (Democrat, Hawaii II. District) has that better-covered. The rest of her platform is very good too, and she may actually be educable about the Fake Opioid Addiction Cri$i$ and the Poison Dope Overdose Scandal. One day I read something like 50 comments about men wanting to bone her and women wanting to eat her pussy, which is distracting and gauche but does raise her profile, and that is the whole reason she is running, to put uncommon ideas out there.
     
  15. lode

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    So I don't wanna dismiss this without hearing your argument at least.

    Why do you say the Opioid Addiction Crisis is fake?
     
  16. Meliai

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    Beto O'Rourke introduced a plan today to institute a $1000 per war tax on those making over 200k a year to cover veteran healthcare costs

    Somehow I dont see this going over well with..anybody
     
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    Heroin addiction started declining in 2012, the true iatrogenic opioid addiction rate is in the low per myriad range if that, unsupervised opioid use has been declining because of a supply cutdown, and the overdoses are from fentanils and non-opioids and other trash and unsupervised opioid users include a lot of cut-off pain patients and other self-medicators. Rehab is a big money-making business, a true racket in the strict economic and legal sense, the Democrats want to blame de-regulation, the Republicans want to blame Obama, it's too convenient anyways which is why I cannot believe how many people swallow it. And imperialists are leaning on Canada, Australia and others as well.

    The really unfortunate thing, given what a wonderful gift from the creator/s cannabis is, would be that the up and coming pot industry and their supporters throw all other drugs under the bus, as the kids these days say. It is a great adjunct for pain because it can reduce the amount of medication, opioids, aspirin, paracetamol, anything else, needed, and combat nausea, but it is not a replacement. It works nothing like opioids in any way.

    As far as the poison dope, remember the 10 000 Americans killed by the methanol and kerosene the Prohibition folks made sure was in illegal liquor. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. I could wax Foucauldian for another 50 pages about the power trip angle on all this . . . .
     
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  18. Nicomorphinst

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    That's right -- and all of the other screaming. . . well, attention and energy and resources are finite, and all the carping about drugs takes away from the real crisis, in fact a catastrophe and a scandal, that being the PTSD situation in the United States and some other WOT Coalition countries, and ill-treated battlefield injuries feed into all this as well.
     
  19. Meliai

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    Oh and Bernie introduced a plan to cancel all student debt
    That will go over well with everyone except baby boomers who paid pennies for university, compared to what it costs today
    BuT I pAiD mY oWn WaY aNd So sHoUlD yOu
    Is what they'll say
     
  20. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    Are people still crying about Trump three years later?
     
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