2020 Election

Fuck collectivism

 

I dunno. It kinda see,s like the incumbent running against the chaos in the streets while he’s in charge only works on the dumbest of voters, who were probably voting orange anyway.

 

He says: sharing memes from the 8 Chan collective.

 

She had some pretty racist, stereotypical ideas about Native Americans, that she must have gotten at the Saturday movie matinees. From a Q and A session following her Address To The Graduating Class Of The United States Military Academy at West Point, New York, March 6, 1974:
"Now, I don't care to discuss the alleged complaints American Indians have against this country. I believe, with good reason, the most unsympathetic Hollywood portrayal of Indians and what they did to the white man. They had no right to a country merely because they were born here and then acted like savages. The white man did not conquer this country. And you're a racist if you object, because it means you believe that certain men are entitled to something because of their race. You believe that if someone is born in a magnificent country and doesn't know what to do with it, he still has a property right to it. He does not. Since the Indians did not have the concept of property or property rights--they didn't have a settled society, they had predominantly nomadic tribal "cultures"--they didn't have rights to the land, and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights that they had not conceived of and were not using. It's wrong to attack a country that respects (or even tries to respect) individual rights. If you do, you're an aggressor and are morally wrong. But if a "country" does not protect rights--if a group of tribesmen are the slaves of their tribal chief--why should you respect the "rights" that they don't have or respect? The same is true for a dictatorship. The citizens in it have individual rights, but the country has no rights and so anyone has the right to invade it, because rights are not recognized in that country; and no individual or country can have its cake and eat it too--that is, you can't claim one should respect the "rights" of Indians, when they had no concept of rights and no respect for rights. But let's suppose they were all beautifully innocent savages--which they certainly were not. What were they fighting for, in opposing the white man on this continent? For their wish to continue a primitive existence; for their "right" to keep part of the earth untouched--to keep everybody out so they could live like animals or cavemen. Any European who brought with him an element of civilization had the right to take over this continent, and it's great that some of them did. The racist Indians today--those who condemn America--do not respect individual rights."
Libertarian superstar Ayn Rand defended Native American genocide: "Racism didn't exist in this country until the liberals brought it up"

Bullshit, lady! Before the Europeans arrived, my Chickasaw ancestors lived "in sophisticated town sites, the Chickasaws possessed a highly developed ruling system complete with laws and religion. They conducted a successful trade business with other tribes and with the French and English, and lived largely an agrarian lifestyle..." Nomadic my ass. And hardly savages. We had a thriving agricultural economy based on corn and supplemented after colonial contact by participation in the deerskin trade. So prosperous was it that the European settlers decided to take it for themselves and summarily march us along the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma, where we had to ward of marauding Comanches and other hostiles. So this is a manifestation of the superiority of western civilization? And the "individualism" of Ayn Rand?

So this lady is ignorant and mean-spirited. Why do you like her? Why do you quote her, as though she knows what she's talking about? It's just a pathetic rationalization for "might makes right".

 

The right wing does not measure success by positive results. They measure it by "liberal tears"

They feel that society has left them behind and there is no greater pleasure than the idea of revenge to them. It's why Rand and Trump will never do any wrong.
Logical and empathetic people will be upset by them. If you are even a fraction as angry as they are when they can not bring their Ar-15 into Walmart it means they win and the day when nukes will go into the Walmart is on the horizon. Just as soon as they get done triggering you and kill you of course.

 

I bet Liz Warren is more native than you lol

 

We know Obama is in contact with ISIS. We know he plans to not count any Republican votes,

But you see we don't really care because all you snowflakes bitching about having your guns taken and "America dying" are funny to us. We feel he will not come for us because we hate the same people. There is no risk for us only our enemy.

We are just so sick of all your shit during Christmas. We are sick of the PC culture and how you cancel Starbucks over saying Happy Holidays. We are sick of you acting morally superior.

So we are just going to let the country die because you will as well.

This is how Democrats would sound were they in a Trump cult. Do you think Fox would be concerned with any of this in 2012? I do.

 

Now, now, now.....

Some of my memes are organic and home made

Like this one for example. A 6-eyed original:

 

I don't think so.

 

You didn't respond to the other part of the post. You know the part where you described yourself as a racist.

 

It seems to me that Rand's argument contradicts the argument made by shaman, and other white supremacists

 

Night 1


Interesting, so you have Biden saying he'll shut everything down if necessary, Trump saying he'll open everything up from November 4th

Not that either have the power to do that, but interesting that on at least one aspect they are going for polar opposite strategies

 

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Thinking in such simple dichotomies again. Does "collectivism" include patriotism and a sense of civic duty? One of the things that's truly beautiful about traditional Native American values, African values and even old fashioned American values is a sense of community and responsibility to care for those in need--something that sociopaths like Ayn Rand and her followers have difficulty comprehending. The largest study of libertarian psychology in the United States ever done, by Jonathan Haidt et al, found that libertarians score lowest on empathy and sociability. The Largest Study Ever of Libertarian Psychology These are people who believe in rights without responsibilites--like the right to go maskless in a pandemic and to give their neighbors Covid19 if they want to. Imagine a society in which people genuinely cooperated with one another for the common good. Then imagine a society full of Ayn Rand and Donald Trump types. Which would you want to live in? Which would be hell on earth?

Collectivism carried to an extreme presents obvious dangers: communism and nazism show what can happen if carried to an extreme. But look at the other heads on Six's dragon: Social justice?!!! Social democracy?!!! Six is trying to put one over on us by presenting these as "Bad Things". "Social justice is a concept of fair and just relations between the individual and society, as measured by the distribution of wealth, opportunities for personal activity, and social privileges." Social justice - Wikipedia Rawls has argued that in a just social order, all inequalities must be shown to benefit the least advantaged in society. The ethical imperative of social justice is biblical. Isaiah 65:17-24, Jeremiah 9:23-24, John 17:3, Amos 5:24, ‘let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream’. I think the pursuit of social justice is what life is all about. Social Democracy is democratic government with a strong safety net to prevent the poor and ill from falling through. Six tells us often that the Scandanavian countries don't really have "socialism"--not even democratic socialism--but have instead basically capitalist economies with a safety net. That's correct. They do quite well in achieving democracy and a high degree of liberty while providing for the material needs of the least advantaged in society. I think we should try that here.

Ironically, he also includes among the dragon heads of his Collectivism meme one labelled "nationalism". That surprised me, because despite his libertarian pretensions, Six seems to be coming from the identiarian right, which ordinarily presents nationalism as a good thing. Nationalism, as distinguished from patriotism, or the feeling of love for one’s country. is a sense of community among a large population based of perceived common history and culture. Richard Cottam, Nationalism in Iran
Both patriotism and nationalism are collectivist, but nationalism is considered to be a more extreme, unforgiving form of allegiance Yet I don't consider these natural expressions of community sentiment to be inherently wrong. It depends on the circumstances and the extent to which identity is focused on common enemies, domestic and foreign.

 

Wow, lolz friggin what?

They had the McCloskeys speak at the RNC?

I've seen some shit in the last 3 years, 10 months, but that might just take the cake

Well, there's no pretending now, it's on

 

Agreed..........never hear any right wing people discussing Ann Rand. Ever.

She seems to be a left wing talking point, a caricature of extremist thought. a Boogeyman, A Strawman.

 

I will bet that I have more Neanderthal genes than Senator Warren has Amerindian genes

 

I would guess Newsweek will be going bankrupt like the rest of the newsie trade.