2020 Election

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  1. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The whole of New York State is still getting new daily cases in the 800-1000 range with new daily deaths around 20

    Lockdown measures can partially explain the drop in cases. But they don't explain why that mortality rate has dropped 80% from near 10% in April to near 2% currently

    And highly doubtful doctors are doing that much better in treating the virus in 4 months to account for that 80% drop

    And of course at their currently rate of 20 deaths a day, at the height of summer, in a population of 20 million people; that's still 365 deaths per million people per year; transpose that to the whole US population...

    365 deaths per million people per year X 330 million = 120,000

    Or to put it another way the current number of deaths a day in the Whole of New York, state and city....at the height of Summer, 365 deaths per million people a year...is STILL higher than the morality rate of 95% of all the countries on earth

    You haven't really suppressed shit

    As I said before, 2020; everyone on the planet it seems, shit at maths

    If at the height of winter, it's 6 times the current rate in NY, you are still looking at 2000 deaths a day across the whole country

    Anything remotely close however to that rate back in April in NY, 1000 deaths per day, next January ; 1000 deaths per 20 million people per day; 50 per million per day....

    ...and you will be looking at around 8,000 deaths a day in if you can't contain half the country, 17,000 a day if spread across the whole country


    Covid deaths per million people, both Chile and Peru snuck into the top ten without anyone noticing (in the height of their winter), Argentina, a nice clean exponential growth curve, again once they come into winter, and their mortality rate is currently 4, 5 times what New York's currently is

    Northern Hemisphere hasn't gone through a winter with covid, it didn't really hit Italy until the start of March

    I just don't see it not being at least 5 times worse than the current rate in NY next January, 5 dead per day per million people

    Which if spread nice and evenly, easy to handle, but will still lead to huge total numbers

    But bear in mind, April 2020 in NY it was 50 dead per day per million people

    My guess would be 5 deaths per day per million people across the US, Europe and China this coming winter

    But I could be wrong, it could get back up to 50 per day per million people, in which case fu-huh-uck we ain't see nuthin yet
     
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  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Groan, popular vote again

    There is a reason pretty much every country on earth doesn't go by the popular vote, and goes by electorates, otherwise you have all those extra millions of people in their own world's in the big cities having too much say in what doesn't happen in the regional areas
     
  4. Tishomingo

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    You have been so far!
     
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  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Do they pay you?
    Senate’s Bipartisan Russia Report Refutes Trump’s Repeated ‘No Collusion’ Lie
    Bipartisan Senate Report Offers Strongest Evidence Yet that Trump Lied to Mueller
    US election BOMBSHELL: Russia interfering AGAIN to help Trump warns intelligence agency
    US election BOMBSHELL: Russia interfering AGAIN to help Trump warns intelligence agency

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
    Trump believed Putin over U.S. intelligence, said North Korea isn't a threat because Russian president said so
    Trump Sides With Putin Over U.S. Intelligence On Election Meddling | HuffPost
    Donald Trump's connections to Russia, explained
    Helsinki summit: Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence - CNNPolitics
    Trump, at Putin’s Side, Questions U.S. Intelligence on 2016 Election
    37 times Trump was soft on Russia - CNNPolitics[/QUOTE]


    Just answer that most simplest of questions, those dumbass Facebook ads, or any other way, how many Americans voters did Russia influence to vote for Trump?

    As for all those links you didn't even read; you are saying that the sum total of Trump being Putin's lapdog over the last 4 years is Trump saying Nth Korea isn't a threat?


    Whoop-ti-fucking-doo
     
  6. Tishomingo

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    Groan. How do those other countries do it again? Obviously, in a Parliamentary system like Australia, the P.M. is chosen by the party or coalition with the most seats in parliament. The notion of an Electoral College is moot, but an independent Electoral Commission administers the establishment of electorates according to population and determining electoral boundaries.
    http://archive.fairvote.org/reports/researchreports/majority_rule_int06.pdf
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
    Electoral Systems around the World - FairVote
    U.S. Election System vs. Rest of World
     
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  7. Flagme15

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    Yup
     
  8. Tishomingo

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    Lotz. Just that simple question. How many American voters did Russia influence for Trump? At least you didn't ask for their names and middle initials! Do you seriously think (surely you don't) that if I can't answer that unanswerable question, there's no reason to think there was Russian influence in the election? What a ridiculous post! What a ridiculous troll!

    Speak for yourself. You obviously didn't read them, but they're there for others to read and to draw reasonable conclusions, which point to lots of Russian influence.
     
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  9. Flagme15

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    Great advice, you should try it sometime.
     
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  10. Tishomingo

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  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Its a totallt answerable question, half a dozen ads, only 80 people ever clicked each, so at best a couple hundred out of 165 million voters

    Whoop-ti-freakin-doo

    Just like 700 maiboxes out of 142,000

    Whoop-ti-freakin-doo
     
  13. hotwater

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    The report released by the Republican-chaired Senate Intelligence Committee was damning for the President.
    The trump campaign really did collude with Russia


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/
     
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  14. Tishomingo

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    What? You're counting posts on social media sites as your indicator of Russian influence on the vote? How lame!
     
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  15. 6-eyed shaman

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    When you use that adjective in reference to cleaning products, it's a positive descriptor.

    When a leftist like Balbus uses it, it is a negative descriptor. Because it's the left's least favorite color.

    I'm not sure if Balbus is a racist, but he's definitely a bigot
     
  16. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    America is being terrorized by the left. When Trump wins again it’s going to get even worse. For any non loony commies here living in liberal cities pls arm yourselves.
     
  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    “[t]heir report reaffirms Special Counsel Mueller’s finding that President Trump did not collude with Russia.”

    A report that confirms The President did not collude with Russia is damning for the President is it?, because you say it is

    Yawwwwwwn


    A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?

    It's didn't get any international attention
     
  18. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well, that how lame the whole thing is

    One paragraph or a few bullet points on how you think Russia influenced American voters in 2016 and how many did they influence. Its a simple request, that should easily receive a simple one paragraph answer

    I know you can't answer, you know you can't answer because it's just a whole bunch of lame shit like those Facebook ads or Podesta emails that didn't influence shit
     
  19. hotwater

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    Once again your pathetic response to my article which clearly states and the report concludes the trump campaign colluded with the Russians.
     
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  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And by Campaign, you mean Manafort, the guy whose resignation President Trump accepted 3 months before the election. i.e resign or you are getting fired

    Yawn
     
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