2020 Election

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  1. Idlewild

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    The polls were pretty accurate in 2016. They had Hillary leading by about 1%, and she got 3 million more votes than Trump.
     
  2. Tishomingo

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    My concern is that it's going to be a total mess, thanks to Trump's messing with the postal service as a means of voter suppression. . Unable to govern effectivley, Republicans have to resort to voter suppression and dirty tricks to win re-election. They may be too clever by half.. Elections are the primary source of legitimacy for modern governments, and when their fairness is in question, people may resort to torches and pitchforks to make their voices heard.
     
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    Thanks. I’ll hire you to tutor me in writing
     
  4. MeAgain

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    You think of her as American as it's the only place she knows as home so I assume you support the Dreamers and oppose Trump's attempts to send them away from the only home they know?

    Please cite the left wing twitter and Facebook accounts.
    In the United States any legal immigrate, not born in the U.S, can hold any political office in the nation except President of the U.S.

    Trump should have disavowed the claim instead of ignoring it, as he wants it to grow and thrive without his seeming involvement.
     
  5. MeAgain

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    Trump is trying his best to screw it up, be prepared for more attacks and false claims.
     
  6. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    you clearly have not researched it. On black twitter on the 10th and prior They were talking about how she will be called an anchor baby. Same with on Facebook,.. they said it would happen and it never happened, but new sources have made it seem like it did, Black twitter is noT trump supporting by the way.

    kamala Harris was leaked early and the article written a week before kamala was officially announced as the VP, anarticle written and accidentally released a week Early. A week before the announcement left wing twitter groups Black twitter were saying she would be called an anchor baby, etc...

    do you think this is a stretch by the media? Come on, he said I don’t know about it or if it is true. No one knows what is true... many things are a lie. Like this.., A journalist asks.... he sums it up, done,


    and it all started from a Newsweek article , which is definitely a less than credible left wing source of information. Who later apologized. African Americans tweeted it....

    Some questions for Kamala Harris about eligibility | Opinion

    then pushed by left wing twitter pages that slanted it. It is ridiculous, Much of the push comes from Aaron Rupar. Wow big surprise

    Twitter


    and left sources use it as news,.... twitter gives news?

    but then you get headlines like this, from bs that originated and spread on twitter. Left wing news sources


    Trump Knows Kamala Harris Is An American. Journalists Should Ignore His Lies

    his lies? A Journalist asks a question, he answers saying I don’t know about it. How about lies and headlines used to upset and mislead the people.

    ny times

    Trump Encourages Racist Conspiracy Theory About Kamala Harris
    President Trump said he heard that Ms. Harris, the presumptive Democratic vice-presidential nominee born in California, was not eligible for the ticket, repeating a theory that is rampant among his followers.

    . So a very old study Eastman Wrote which was an opinion in studying the constitution and what things could possibly mean is published in a left wing news sources.

    you clearly have not researched it. On black twitter on the 10th and Way prior They were talking about how she will be called an “anchor baby” which is a racist term, no? Same with on Facebook,.. they said it would happen when it never happened, but new sources have made it seem like it did, Black twitter is noT trump supporting by the way. But plenty of left wing sources are using the term anchor baby.

    kamala Harris was leaked early and the article written a week before kamala was officially announced as the VP, an article wrote and accidentally released a week Early. A week before the announcement left wing twitter groups Black twitter were saying she would be called an anchor baby, etc...

    do you think this is a stretch by the media? Come on, he said I don’t know about it or if it is true. No one knows what is true... many things are a lie. Like this.., A journalist asks.... he sums it up, done,

    but then you get headlines like this, from bs that originated and spread on twitter. Left wing news sources


    Trump Knows Kamala Harris Is An American. Journalists Should Ignore His Lies

    his lies? A Journalist asks a question, he answers saying I don’t know about it. How about lies and headlines used to upset and mislead the people.

    ny times

    Trump Encourages Racist Conspiracy Theory About Kamala Harris
    President Trump said he heard that Ms. Harris, the presumptive Democratic vice-presidential nominee born in California, was not eligible for the ticket, repeating a theory that is rampant among his followers.


    really? Is that what happened? Is that what he said? According to the ny times, he said kamala is not eligible. Did you hear that?

    President Trump on Thursday encouraged a racist conspiracy theory that is rampant among some of his followers:

    Trump Encourages Racist Conspiracy Theory About Kamala Harris

    really? Is that what happened? According to the ny times, he said kamala is not eligible. Did you hear that? Who encouraged it here? I would say that a left wing so called new source did. Since when is opinions news? Opinions that are stretched and presented as facts.

    or how about MSN?


    Trump erroneously calls into question the citizenship of another non-white American running for office


    But this is inaccurate and it all started with left wing twitter ... and black twitter speculations and some Guy who happened to film this Question from an angle that hid the reporters face. No one knows who she is... funny huh?

    Then you have African Americans who have taken exception to Horrible Harris calling herself African American, when she is not in the least. It is all over black twitter. You can search out twitter for it and these people on black twitter are the left for the most part. But a white person isn’t allowed to say to someone, who is in the public eye, is this true? Cher claimed to be of native to North America. It was a lie. It is the same for people who say I am native North American simply because they are black and I personally have heard, been told that black people married native people. So there for I am native too. It is crazy. I have my ethnicity questioned here all the time. I don’t like it when people take credit for things they are not. I think it is also fair to question ones claims, especially a person in the public eye. As Kamala Harris is, as Cher was. Cher was not questioned. I know the truth of what I am and have been honest. I know I am native from both sides of my family through my mother, and my grandmothers as well as my father and grandfathers. So question it all you like. I won’t be showing my family tree, and I won’t be showing you census with family who are marked native on census but after marriage are no longer marked as such. And I won’t be showing you siblings approved for the Qalipu Mi’kmaq band, where by the government approved one sibling, of the same parent, but not the other.

    I have always known I am native, aboriginal to this country. Was raised going to the native Center every saturday growing up in Toronto. Yet denied by the government. For all these left leaning people here to simply disregard this speaks volumes to me. I don’t count on either side of the coin it seems, but it does bother me that for a side to claim they are for minorities and injustices, this would not matter. It doesn’t fit the goal of today. Keep aboriginal people quiet. Keep the native peoples quiet and in their place, to the only place we can identify with. Shut up and go live on a reserve. We have bigger fish to fry and will lie to get it.


    But I digress. Lol. Nothing wrong with questioning Horrible Harris’s claims. Her statements have been outright lies and do not reflect her actions. If you can’t question her because she is Jamaican Indo slaver...I do, when she states otherwise in calling herself African American. .. why can’t she simply say the truth. , rather than taking someone else”s background and experience as Cher did, and people simply believed the lie previously..

    But still you have not responded to my earlier questions. I will simplify it.... What is more important? Actual news like the 5 year old shot in the head while riding his bike, or fake claims of racism in order to promote a racial divide for political purposes?

    no outrage for this tragedy of the 5 year old innocent, but hey racism gets from page when it is any crime involving a so called white person against a black persons or any comment by a white person that gets skewed for political gain.




     
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  7. Tyrsonswood

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    Big letters, must be important...
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Oh, wow she was an anchor baby
     
  9. Tishomingo

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    It's impossible to carry on an intelligent conversation with an ignoramus. I'll leave it to other readers to deal with the particulars of your jumbled thoughts and who said what on twitter.. The "competent lawyer" Trump was talking about was Eastman. His "study" which you call "very old" appeared for the first time as a very short op ed in Newsweek last week on August 12, 2020--the source which you describe as "definitely a less than credible left wing source of information". But it was the source of the op ed of Mr. Eastman, a certifiable right wing lawyer--the very one whom Trump described as credible. And who is he? why he's none other than the dude Harris beat in the race for D.A.! Not exactly an unbiased source. And it wasn't really a study, in the usual sense, but a somewhat ambiguous short exposition of the views on "both sides". Like Trump, the weasel doesn't exactly say Harris is ineligible, but just strongly implies it on the basis of a questionable reading of the case law. The story was promoted by Trump's campaign adviser Jenna Ellis has picked up the ball and run with it. And Trump called Eastman "a very highly qualified, very talented lawyer".

    The determined researcher might trace the idea to it an earlier source in a tweet by Ali Alexander #Never Kamala, which drew a response (later deleted) from Donald Trump Jr. "Is It True? Wow!"
    Kamala Harris: "Birther" tweet targets 2020 candidate, rivals rush to her defense - CBS News
    An even more determined researcher would give credit to Jacob Wohl, A right wing Trump supporter, Twitter political troll and veteran of a failed smear campaign against Robert Mueller Wohl was cited by Eastman, or rather Eastman mentioned the Politifact article describing his theory as "pants on fire!":
    "Kamala Harris is NOT eligible to be President...
    — Jacob Wohl (@JacobAWohl) January 22, 2019"

    Is Kamala Harris Not Eligible to Serve as U.S. President?
    PolitiFact - Yes, Kamala Harris is eligible to run for president
    MAGA Troll Reboots Birther Conspiracy for Kamala Harris


    You ask " If you can’t question her because she is Jamaican Indo slaver...I do, when she states otherwise in calling herself African American. " Well, you see, she obviously isn't a Jamaican Indo slaver". She was born in the USA, and never owned or traded in slaves.To question her about that gives credence to the charge. Like questioning
    you about your drinking.


    SO THERE !
     
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  10. Tishomingo

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    And you have a problem with that? But considering her parents had careers in this country and (in her mother's case) Canada, that term is entirely misleading.
     
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  11. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Its more like a punch in the gut then sweating.

    A punch in the gut combined with a slap in the face the 2020 Democrat ticket.
     
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  12. Tyrsonswood

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    And... then there's this.



    Planned chaos: Trump’s GOP has big ideas for voter suppression and intimidation this November


    I'm guessing only the little red hat people will be allowed to vote... How convenient.

    Bigly
     
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    first off, if you expect me to read what drivel you post when you start out with personal insults you are sorely mistaken.
    So I skipped to avoid it, to which I do not do to you. And seeing scratcho approve of this as well... kind of makes anything you have to say BS, as well as scratcho giving you a thumbs up as well. like the bullying tactics you do with the Gang mentality do, doesn’t bother me actually. I see you for what you are. I do wonder about your age, don’t wonder about scratcho ... Nice guy who gets my respect due to the life he has lead, and the things he has seen, experienced in his life, but not for his approval of a statement that starts out with personal attacks. Yep, scratcho moves down a few notches. Says nothing but approves personal attacks. How are you any better than the insults you claim trump does?

    Anyhow, so now you bring it to a far right extremist like the far left, as if trump is connected to whoever the fuck that guy is... I have No use and zero use for the connection you claim to promote, Where is it?

    but we can look at far right commOn ground with the far left ok? Far left has become the center, which is not cool. Far right can remain a pariah on the right, and have joined the far left, which has become mainstream. HorriBle Harris is not hated because she is of colour, but because she is an asshole with asshole policies and a shady past, which have actually hurt people who are struggling. No one cares about her skin colour, but it should not be used as a crutch either with her false claims. , especially with lies about her ethnicity and how she was busD in, when in fact the school was diverse long before, 10+ years What a joke.... They simply moved bus service to the far reaching suburbs. If one can lie about that, what else does she lie about? I have no tolerance for this lie, which is used to promote one self for votes and political purposes. If she Is some down in the gutter, struggling person growing up, while leading a privilege life? No! And many agree regardless of skin colour, ethnicity, religion or whatever... Do you get it?

    black twitter
    Twitter

    that is just one, there are many more associated..... it is divisive and not about unity and understanding, finding common ground, it is about division and Marxist ideology. Like a marriage, people have different view, yet, there is zero compromise,
    And black twitter does look to divide when you dig deep, but they do not approve of horrible Harris, through groups that are directly connected via Black lives matter and the metoo movement. White people raped, assaulted do not matter. If we are all equal, human, why much skin colour be an issue?

    Black Twitter - Wikipedia

    it is a place where black people go to blame white people for all their struggles and failures, much like you see in left wing media sources, which misconstrue things.

    My failures and successes are my own, not because of ethnicity, A black man can rape and so can a white man, so can women,...Equally just as awful. Not because of someone else based on skin colour. I don’t like media pointing all ills in the world on one, based on ethnicity. It is stereotyping... which is completlely promoting hatred for ‘white people’ might explain why a 5 year old was shot in the head. MIGHT ... but other things can be pointed at media promoting this white man is out to get you. Creates fear and unnecessary and uncalled for retaliation.

    Kamala Harris has lived a privileged life, as a person of colour who says she is African American, to which she is not. Her track record matters, and it is not good. Not good because of what she has done. Just because she has a brown shade does not mean she is righteous. Don’t lose sight of that. She doesn’t get a free pass. how can she ever identify with anY struggling community, and it isn’t reserved for one ethnicity, . I have realized that there are privileged, and kamala Harris is privileged her entire life, regardless of skin colour. That parents worked for, does not mean their children do not have a right to the life and security, left behind for them, by their parents.. Some have it easier, some don’t. I get it. The work of accomplishments feels good. Not hand outs, It isn’t a skin colour thing necessarily, or by default. Why? Because her parents worked hard and found success through education and hard work. Just like everyone else! Success is not reserved for people based on ethnicity.

    but kamala Harris has used this, while at the same time abusing people and her powerful position. It doesn’t matter that she is of colour, it doesn’t matter! Her actions matter. But instead she asks, how can I be a professional victim today, while being rejected by those who want to be professional victims.
     
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    I think I said all that I need to on the subject. Can't be bothered wading through your stream of consciousness ramblings.
     
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    Go find one... We'll wait
     
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    Good, so move along them.
     
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    Apparently Australians, and people in the northwest drink out of the same water source, the toilet bowl.It effects their ability to be cogent.
     
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