2020 Election

During the debates, the onus will be on the President to defend his record.

All Biden has to do double-down on the questions posed by the panelists, look presidential, and he's in like flint.

 

Which is basically what I said from a differing viewpoint

 

yes but now everyone knows he is stupid and not vote for him.

 

Yeah cause that worked so well last time HE WALKED all over Hillary

 

She got 3 million votes more than him. Trump got help from Pam Bondy in Florida and a little more from Republican governors in Wisconsin and Michigan. This next time Democrats are going to watch the voting machines and regulations like a hawk.

 

it was like 2.1 mil but whatever I was talking about the debates she got spanked

 

You have a wild imagination, huh?

 

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 2,864,974. over Trump

And as I remember Clinton won two out of the three debates, hands down

 

Yeah, but...

 

oops it was 2.1 % my mistake not 2.1 million

 

Trump comes across as a bully in debates. That's never been his forte. The rallies are his thing, and there he'll be putting everyone who attends at risk--many in the high risk category. How many days until the election? I do expect he'll try to cheat or challenge the legitimacy of the elections, hoping his armed loyalists will back him up. The push will really come to shove!

 

Can you provide an example? There must be 100's where he without name calling lists factual information.

I am pretty sure you mean "he called her a name I also call her" and acted like it was a waste of his time to do more.

This is probably why the right wing has like 2 people who are held up as "smart academics" and even they NEVER actuly debate for real. They just go to college campus and ambush and edit so the other side looks stupid.

 

Are you saying there was fraud involved?

 

I could but it would be from right wing publication which you would counter with left wing publications, but I can give a real life anecdote , we were on a fishing trip in upstate ny 3 of us
1 lib, 1 moderate , 1 conservative during the middle of the debate the lib stormed out of the room in tears and said "she is gonna lose". and that's the rest of the story

 

Yes, very much so. In addition to what I told you, the top Republican in Weld County Colorado got caught and convicted after he voted twice for Trump. He signed his wife's name on the second ballot. That's fraud by Republicans. It is very much so … fraudulent behavior. F R A U D.

 

So you have nothing. I knew as much because he does not/ can not debate. He has even said this regarding 2020. To his voters doing so is a waste of time. I get the same attitude from his votes here.

If they bother to respond it's 2 or 3 words often not even on the topic. They seem to truly consider this a smart.

Video is video unless Fox news edits it. Unless you are suggesting a left wing source is lying in the same way you can find his debates anywhere. Don't hide behind that excuse.

 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/780796008854876160/photo/1

Donald Trump trounced Hillary Clinton in second debate, but...

Donald Trump Trounced Hillary Clinton in the Town Hall Debate - Ricochet

Focused Trump Trounces Clinton at Testy 2nd Debate | RealClearPolitics!


"Many online snap polls have named Hillary Clinton the winner of the first presidential debate on Monday, September 26, while several others have painted Donald Trump as the victor."


This last link is a reasonably in depth summary of their respective platforms that I found amusing

Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

 

Surely you can do better. Your first link is to the Donald himself, hardly a reliable source, who reaffirms his reputation for lying by citing fake polls.
Then there is News With Views article. Media Bias/Fact Check designates News With Views as a "questionable source" because of extreme right wing bias and its tendency to dabble in conspiracy theories.News With Views - Media Bias/Fact Check
Then there is the conservtive site Ricochet, "a right biased news and opinion political website" Richochet - Media Bias/Fact Check
Which brings us to your best source, RealClear politics, which has a right-center bias but is an interesting aggregation of news from a variety of sources. The article in question, an opinion piece, does pronounce Trump the victor of the second debate, but in a somewhat backhanded way: "Trump suddenly and surprisingly found the focus that had eluded him two weeks ago."

As far as how much debates matter in a general presidential election: (1) they can matter in close races where a few percentage points can make a difference, but generally don't have much impact on most voters, especially the partisan ones; (2) the media spin counts more than the debate itself; (3) appearance is more important than substance. Since the two candidates in the forthcoming debates suffer from chronic foot-in-mouth disease, it should be an interesting spectacle.

That is, if the debates are forthcoming. There is no legal requirement that they happen. Only an expectation, and an appearance of cowardice if one or the other candidate refuses to debate. It's been suggested that Biden do so, however, because "It is impossible to debate someone who is willing to make up facts on the spur of the moment. The findings of fact-checkers would not be available to Biden during a debate." Why Biden Shouldn't Debate Trump

 

Been preoccupied with real life events... only reason I even bothered was Unfocused challenged it and you did EXACTLY what I expected , to paraphrase "your sources suck" the first link is a screencap which is why I used it I highly doubt it was altered.... I am tired of this for now , my dogs are much more important

 

Yeah, it's authentic. But the source is inherently unreliable--Trump himself!