2020 Election

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  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Seems to me that lately you have been accusing anyone and everyone of being a white supremisist
     
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  2. Tishomingo

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  3. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    Oops, thought I was in conspiracy. Deleted
     
  4. tikoo

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    White nationalist ? Black nationalist ? Green nationalist ? They are united in not being of the globalists .
    Is there an avowed globalist running for a national office ? We don't even have The Leader of The Free World
    as a fictional super-hero to vote for .

    I wouldn't mind nationally electing a globalist as representative to the United Nations .
     
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  5. Alonso376

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    Brilliant, lol
     
  6. Vladimir Illich

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    Serious flaw in your argument - Hephatrump has withdrawn the US from involvement with the UN,
     
  7. Balbus

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    Well as some right wingers seem incapable of doing it I will explain it.

    Well think of its context –

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    It is about holding power to account; now books have been written on this but I’m try to keep it brief.

    Those types of government that do not want to be held to account always wish to curtail the possibility of it happening.

    They try to subvert the system by such things as packing the courts with loyal judges so petitions of grievance against a government are not heard or struck down.

    They discourage public protest by associating protestors with genuine grievance with rioters and looters or though the threat or use of violence.

    If you succeed in associating any protest with violence it is then possible to stamp on any protest through the threat or use of force and if people fear they may be injured or arrested at a protest they are less likely to attend, this allows the established power to claim that not that many are opposed to it.

    The same type of governance attacks the freedom of the press in similar way by insinuate they are spreading lies and are ‘enemies of the people’ and threating them with such things as regulation, malicious prosecutions and the removal of broadcast licences.

    It is an authoritarian mentality that does not want to be held to account, it seems that many on the right realise that such things as the right to protest and a free press are in the constitution but don’t seem to know why – which is only a step or two away from wondering if they should be.
     
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  8. wrat

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    You seem to be talking about his approval rating, not where he stands in comparison with the opposition.
    General Election: Trump vs. Biden CNBC Biden 48, Trump 41 Biden +7
    General Election: Trump vs. Biden Monmouth Biden 52, Trump 41 Biden +11
    General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 47, Trump 40 Biden +7
    You are correct. He has a loyal following of folks much like you who don't seem to be moved by any fact or development. But that following isn't gonna win him the election. There has also been a pretty consistent majority of some 53-55% that disapproves of his performance. And it's the battleground states that count, but Biden seems to be gaining there.https://www.newsweek.com/biden-gain...s-while-leading-nationally-poll-shows-1508457
    If we have another election where the Dems win a majority of the popular vote but the Pres squeaks by in the Electoral College , I don't think that would bodes well for the future of our political system.[/QUOTE]

    Polls are skewed if I remember correctly ALL polls had Hillary soundly beating Trump....IF there are any debates public/televised whatever Trump will trounce Biden, Biden can barely remember his name, Like it or not unless another candidate comes along Trump is going to win
     
  9. Flagme15

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    well let's see. Over 100k deaths, and growing. 40 million people out of work. Overreaction by the trump administration to peaceful protests. A 40% approval rating, and disliked by many in his own party. trump digging his own political grave everytime he opens his mouth. Wishful thinking that he will be reelected.
     
  10. wrat

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    its not wishful thinking its an unfortunate fact in 2-3 months the economy will be rolling and no matter how narcissistic and moronic Trump gets as long as the economy is doing well he will beat Biden , NOW if some reasonably decent OTHER candidate comes along well all bets are off but I dont see that happening
     
  11. Tishomingo

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    In two or three months the economy will by rolling? I find that hard to believe, but we'll see. If there's another Covid-19 epidemic, it will be rolling downhill. The Congressional Budget Office forecast in late April that it would take at least until the end of 2021 for the economy to recover.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2020-04-17/experts-economy-wont-bounce-back-quickly
    Why U.S. Unemployment Is Sky-High and Europe's Isn't
    U.S. Economy Is Opening Back Up, But the Covid-19 Fallout Will Linger
    Unemployment: Nearly 2 million more jobless claims expected but layoffs are easing
    Why April's Unemployment Rate Was the Highest Since the Depression

    And are you factoring in the current civil unrest? Biden has been sounding presidential these days, while Trump is putting his foot in it with divisive rhetoric.
    Opinion | Biden's moving response to Floyd protests was more Republican than Trump's
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/joe-biden-delivers-in-person-remarks-on-george-floyd-protests/
    Fundraisers say donations to Biden surge as George Floyd protests sweep country
    Trump’s Bible photo op splits white evangelical loyalists into two camps
     
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  12. Flagme15

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    If trump is reelected, I foresee a breakdown of societal norms, and possibly a civil war. Remember, liberals have guns, also.
     
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  13. wrat

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    a civil war over an elected president now thats funny, and I think you may mean a further breakdown of societal norms but I could be mistaken (but I dont think so)
     
  14. wrat

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    The first c-19 outbreak has NOT stopped cases are increasing daily its highly unlikely another shutdown will happen , and just to clarify by rolling I meant moving NOT booming, people have a very short attention span the current civil unrest will be forgotten by election day. Trump ALWAYS sounds like an idiot but he knows how to play the public his supporters and the media remember there is no such thing as BAD publicity. The problem with Biden is he may very well have Alzheimer's or some such he has a tendency to go off on nonsensical tangents and forgets where he is and such he is just OLD ( as is Trump who suffers from different problems) .... As I said earlier in this thread the fact that the best this once great nation can come up with is Biden or Trump is sad and disheartening
     
  15. Tishomingo

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    There were an unusually large number of contenders for the Democratic nomination in 2019-20--twenty-eight, I believe. That's the most since the inception of the modern primary system. Biden debated many of them. And now there is one, him, and they're backing him. Pretty good for a senile old coot!

    I know there is this theory that any publicity is good publicity. Some folks would rather be wanted for murder than not wanted at all. But there's such a thing as over-saturation. Jesse the Body Ventura was a novelty at first, but got stale quickly. Jerry Springer got old after a while, too. I don't think the Corna briefings helped Trump, which is why they stopped. Trump was a novelty, like Arnold, the Governator of California. The public eventually lost interest and moved on. This election may put the theory to the test.
     
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  16. wrat

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    Actually hopefully the C-19 briefings HURT Trump as I stated he is a narcistic moron and they helped show that he is not a leader . I still think he will beat Biden though.. and again to be clear they BOTH SUCK
     
  17. Piney

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    Yes, watching this happening now. Perhaps erosion rather than a breakdown has been the story so far.

    disliked by many in his own party.

    Certainly
     
  18. Tishomingo

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    God help us. Give him another four years, and there'll be nothing left of the republic.
     
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  19. soulcompromise

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    Maybe President Trump doesn't want to win a second term.

    He has to know all the stuff he's saying about American citizens being terrorists is not gaining him any popularity; at least not in the media.
     
  20. wrat

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    That is an interesting thought
     
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