2020 Election

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  1. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    Im only trolling in your mind
     
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  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Those are just more headlines from the culture war can you back any of them up with a rational argument?
     
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  3. onceburned

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    all you know is how to deny deny deny if you don't like what I post don't look at it
     
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  4. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Just shouting culture war memes is not debate it is just a way of trying to shout down debate and that is trolling

    Again I ask why are you posting stuff you can neither explain nor back up?

    You are clearly not interested in debate or discussion in what is a debate forum that is just trolling the forum.

    I’ll ask again can you please answer the questions addressed to you and enter into a debate, if you are unwilling can you stop posting in politics.
     
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  5. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    I suppose I'll have to get your express "ok" before I post now ?
     
  6. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Just posting culture war memes is not debate it is just a way of trying to shout down debate and that is trolling

    So just think before you post

    Are you willing to enter into debate over what you post or not - if not don't post.
     
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  7. onceburned

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    I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not shouting at anyone
     
  8. Balbus

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    to repeat - ask youself are you willing to enter into debate over what you post or not - if not don't post.
     
  9. onceburned

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    this convo with you is confusing . you don't make any sense to me. I am always open to debate
     
  10. Balbus

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    OK again

    Real clear poltics – a right wing site pushing a right wing agenda

    Then I looked at the others

    Another list had ‘let gays get married’ as a worse thing

    Another listed blaming Bush for the economic problems he faced

    Another listed Obamacare

    As I say its subjective – these are right wing viewpoints that I don’t think stand up to that much scrutiny

    Can you please back them up?

    In what way are the ‘liberals’ moving further and further left?

    What ‘actions’ would be bad for the country?

    What does ‘Trump is the result of the left’ even mean?

    You then say you are basing your voting on supposed personality traits not politics why is that?
     
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  11. scratcho

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    Balbus, you're asking a chipmunk to explain how to construct a house.
     
  12. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    I like chipmunks but if they are trolling they are not welcome here
     
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    "this convo with you is confusing." Yes. Of course it is.
     
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    To whom are you referring?
     
  15. onceburned

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    I could explain it all to you but since you are firmly anchored in the left you wouldn't understand
     
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    That is just a refusal to debate so please stop posting
     
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  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Central element of the debate: the argument
    Perspective

    The perspective is the point of view taken by the parties in the discussion when presenting their arguments.
    Development
    This refers to the way in which the ideas that support our point of view are exposed. It is not enough to present the argument however well that it is, but must be developed.
    Refutation
    The refutation occurs when one of the parties presents arguments proving that the opinion of the other party is not valid. These are known as counterarguments.
    In order to be able to refute correctly, the party must pay careful attention to the intervention of its opponent. It is the duty of the party to find weaknesses, inconsistencies and flaws in the arguments of the opposing party.
    Defense
    Counter arguments can not be ignored by the defense, but must be answered. The part whose argument is being refuted defends its opinion through arguments that invalidate the counter arguments.
    Refutation and defense are repeated in cycle: ideas are presented, refuted, defended and refuted again until the conclusion of the debate.

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    Many postings at this site stop at the perspective stage of debate.
    Many times they are poorly developed or not developed at all.
    When refuted, many times little or no valid counterarguments are presented. Instead the refutation is ignored or a catch phrase such as libtard or deplorable is trotted out as a refutation in a classic Ad hominem attack.
    Many times a defense of one's perspective, if even offered, lacks facts, sources, rational, or supporting data, relying instead on personal opinion and or emotional bias.
     
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    like trump, and his cronies?
    pot/kettle. dude, you stick your foot in your mouth everytime you post. No substance at all to what you say.
     
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  19. Balbus

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    Panic

    What are the arguments backing up this theory?

    Are you saying you agree with the theory or not and if so why?
     
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    I sort of agree with the FISA oversight passage that Lee's touting. I think it's a bi-partisan victory - it's not a republican-only kind of thing. That provides oversight for the activities of the justice department. But he says that "they wouldn't have been able to investigate" the President's campaign the way they did.... I'm not so sure. & there were questions about the usage of campaign finances to hush Stormy Daniel's. I don't know that it's a federal case, but it shows impropriety and points to probable cause; of which I know very little (I took forensic anthropology, but I dropped out because it was not anthropological but rather police CSI stuff).

    I'm only halfway through the video. The anchor is tolerable; thankfully, but she's leaning right and so's Lee. I don't care for that. The bit from Mollie Hemingway about the Russia investigation being a hoax is bologna too. I wish they would talk more about Pelosi. :D
     
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