2020 Election

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  1. Flagme15

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    I saw trump on the telly saying Biden should fight this.
     
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  2. If the convention comes apart, and that looks more and more likely, everyone's up for a vote. Heck, even Bill Clinton could run again!

    You're right though, Biden looks way too guilty. Democrats are being extorted for their votes with the fear of another Trump term being held over their heads. But even if Biden did win, everyone would know exactly where democrats stand on respect for women. They can shed this really really bad stigma with a brokered convention, even if Trump wins again.

    But if they insist on Biden in the face of far worse allegations and evidence than anyone presented against Kavanaugh (an odd comparison since he was never a political candidate), they risk alienating well over a generation of women. Seriously, after the dust settles, every woman who voted will take an inventory of their actions. And as the democrats continue to break promises, part of their normal MO, it will only get worse for them.
     
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  3. Yea, that's Trump trolling again. If Biden fights this, he's fucked. His only smart play is to get the hell out of town, pull a Romney and vanish long enough to blow the election.
     
  4. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    We really are between a rock and a hard place...

    If we vote for Biden, it's at the expense of women everywhere. If we don't, Trump will win the presidency dashing the hopes and dreams of millions of people and possibly worse considering the latter's track record.

    I'm not going to vote for him now or ever unless he's cleared; which is unlikely. He looks too guilty of sexual assault to be the rightful leader of the United States.
     
  5. Tishomingo

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    So all anyone needs to do is make a charge and (if she's wearing a skirt) that settles it "unless he is cleared". You're in the same boat with the Pizzagate believers. The story can and will be investigated, but until credible evidence comes out, which in my opinion it hasn't so far, I'm sticking with Biden as an alternative to the Monster. If you sit it out or vote for some Third Party candidate, you fully deserve another four years of Trump and the destruction it will cause.
    No, as a matter of fact, Biden didn't win "the primary". He won enough of them that his opponents threw in the towel There is no single primary; it's done state-by-state. Biden so far has won the most states — several by landslides--he is still short of the number needed to win the nomination. To win the nomination on the first ballot, a Democratic candidate needs get a majority of pledged delegates — at least 1,991-- of the total 3,979. Biden has 1,435 pledged delegates.
    But if they insist on Biden in the face of far worse allegations and evidence than anyone presented against Kavanaugh (an odd comparison since he was never a political candidate), they risk alienating well over a generation of women.
    What a remarkably absurd statement! "Far worse allegations and evidence than anyone presented against Kavanaugh"? What does that even mean. "Far worse" in the sense that Tara Reade, in the latest version of her changing story, accused Biden of digital penetration?" As I recall, Kavanaugh's accuser, Professor Blasey Ford, testified under oath before the U.S. Senate, was examined and cross-examined for hours, and her story held up pretty well. True, Kavanaugh was "never a political candidate". He was being considered for a lifetime judicial appointment on the U.S. Supreme Court. And he sits there now, despite his angry, vindictive, partisan outburst that, by itself, should have disqualified him. What is the "evidence" against Biden? After 27 years, Ms. Reade came forward with her allegations. Oh, yes, I know. Rape victims supposedly do that often. In the meantime, after leaving government employment, she praised Biden for his record on womens' rights. Then she became an open Putin devotee, until she decided that, as a vegan feminist, she couldn't do that any longer. She was an Elizabeth Warren supporter when she made the first sexual allegation about Biden, which was relatively tame--running his hand down her back. On the second try, it became penetration by finger. Then a neighbor came forward saying--after all these years and the story appearing in the newspaper--that Reade told her about the incident. Then Reade said she had filed a complaint for "harassment and retalliation with the Senate in 1993, but as people started looking for said complaint, she said that complaint, if it’s found, would not include the sexual assault allegation, although she recalls using the word "harassement" . Ms. Reade's charges deserve a full investigation--preferably with people testifying under oath and subjected to cross-examination. But until better evidence turns up, we can't reasonably conclude that the "evidence" is "far worse" than that against Kavanaugh. Nice try.

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  7. soulcompromise

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    If there is any possibility he did it, I'm not willing to consider him.
     
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  8. soulcompromise

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    What if he did it though?
     
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  9. Yawn, why read further?
     
  10. soulcompromise

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    How well do you remember 1993?

    The overwhelming majority have a second sense that they should remove the President from the White House. Also, I can see that this puts them between a rock and a hard place - vote for rape or Trump, or don't vote.

    I'm not prepared to say what I am going to do. But if it comes down to it, and he's not cleared, what do you expect?
     
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  11. Obedience to party, without question.
     
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  12. soulcompromise

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    Which is my first instinct!

    But what in God's name??? He did WHAT? ffs smh
     
  13. Tishomingo

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    Wow. Far out! And which candidate would you be willing to consider? Only a woman?
    What if your father did it? In the minds of some feminist red hots, all males are potential rapists, you included. In your search for purity, you're essentially supporting one of the most depraved and incompetent scoundrels to occupy the Oval Office.
     
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  14. Since the statute is beyond expired, I think his best option is to cop to it at this point. Being honest might save his hide.
     
  15. Ah yes, the old "reduce to the absurd" tactic. How amazingly predictable!
     
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  16. soulcompromise

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    Your mischaracterizing my sentiment isn't fooling me or anybody else that I'm aware of, hot shot.

    It's not just another what if.

    If he digitally penetrated Tara Reade - goofy gaffe-y guy that he is, man - he can fuck himself!

    If not, I will vote for him, or any willing democrat opposing another Trump presidency.

    To answer you, I would absolutely be thrilled to have a female candidate; a Kamala or an Elizabeth is exactly what this country needs!
     
  17. Tishomingo

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    How well do you remember it? I was 3 years old and not following politics or sexual harassment charges at the time. So what's the point? As for those caught between a rock and a hard place, Trump has been accused of sexual assault or rape by 17 women. Hasn't slowed him down. Do you seriously believe purity is the prime criteria for the Presidency? If so, Jimmy Carter was probably the best qualified President in U.S. history. What a disaster!
     
  18. Oh yea, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  19. soulcompromise

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    You're right.

    But if he's innocent it should be obvious when he talks about it. It isn't, and that's what has me concerned.

    That and he sucked at debating.
     
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