2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Deleted member 42017, Jan 1, 2019.

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  1. Meliai

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  2. I'm just as suspicious as I was when all this was dumped on Kavanaugh, after decades.

    What's interesting is the way there's more corroboration and even media clips to back the narrative. But, it's still something from decades ago.

    Obviously it's too late to drag him into court over this, which tells me this is purely political. So it's time to follow Tara's money trail. That's some recent evidence that could illuminate this matter.

    See, with Kavanaugh the show was obvious and clearly driven by the emotional need to get at Trump. But this is well planned. Someone went through old records and found credible complaints that were swept under the rug. Then an offer was made and poof, instant sexual assault victim with secondary witnesses.

    Now, who would be shrewd enough to set a plot like this in motion to take down a competitor? Hmmmmmmmmmm?
     
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  3. soulcompromise

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    they should have done this while bernie was still running! :D
     
  4. Exactly. But if it's who I think it was, he had to wait until Bernie was out of the way. And Bernie had a historical precedence for taking the money and dropping the campaign. So this plot was in the wings for months. With Bernie out of the way and Covid making less news, the time was right to spring the trap. Having Google and CNN purge the video was a nice touch, makes it look like Biden's people were all over it.

    I think we're seeing an insurance policy being played. Destroying Joe leaves the democrats with what exactly? A brokered, video convention where all of the retreads from the primaries consider a new run (and who can blame them). Who knows, a 3rd party candidate might have a chance to slip in with all the chaos in play.

    One thing is for certain, somebody didn't want Bernie in a debate with Trump.
     
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  5. soulcompromise

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    So, I was thinking that the same somebody who didn't want Bernie in a debate with Trump is the same somebody who had to wait until Bernie was out of the way. :)

    And the money trail is the key to this whole thing, if there is one. It may have actually happened, though I don't see why. Joe Biden was not a swanky millionaire like you said. He wasn't a "pussy-grabber" for lack of a better term, and he's being portrayed as one. Everyone can believe it pretty easily because of the precedent that's been set. I don't know what to think, but if Reade is smart she won't have that money around (if it exists). It'll be tucked away somewhere she can't get to until the whole thing blows over.

    That's the other thing. I don't this is supposed to go into court. Just like you were saying that would have happened a long time ago; at least if it were me it would have. I think it's supposed to cause damage & to make Biden look bad. I mean sure he sticks his foot in his mouth/sniffs hair, but is that what kind of guy he is? That guy pinned someone against a wall? I guess I don't believe it.
     
  6. Gul Dukat

    Gul Dukat Kanar, anyone?

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    You haven't done this? I mean... With a consenting woman. Not a rando at work.
     
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  7. hotwater

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    If you're suggesting he'll be impeached by a democratic controlled house, you're nuts.
     
  8. onceburned

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    the house could go to the right....the party isn't over yet
     
  9. soulcompromise

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    You're joking, right?

    To answer, no I never have. I've done many things, that in particular not being among them
     
  10. Gul Dukat

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    Heh... Sure. Totally. *tugs at collar uncomfortably, clears throat*
     
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  11. scratcho

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    The main reason to vote for Biden is getting trump out AND especially getting competent people back in agencies that are NOT headed by those that wish to destroy the very agencies that they head. Rebuilding relationships with other countries around the world that now see us as ridiculous bumpkins for our choice of president would be helpful. I don't think Biden will be a great and maybe not even a good president----but he will return the US to some semblance of normalcy, which we are sorely lacking now. On the one hand, I mean return power to unions so that workers can have some say in how they are treated in the work place , to have some say in wages and benefits in labor in which they will spend many, many of their waking hours and years of their lives. On the other hand , to assuage the real owners of this country--the super rich who buy the legislators to make the laws that benefit only themselves---you know --back to normal for the greedy and the working stiffs.

    How will this era/period be written about in say--50 years? How will historians view this grand experiment of government of the people, by the people and for the people that has been around for only a few hundred years? Will they be able to see how distorted our society has now become. That most citizens are a paycheck or two from bankruptcy after giving their time and their bodies to laboring away for----? That a few own the great percentage of everything that exists? That people are so fond of continuing to work until they drop for the shiny plastic that we have all been convinced that we cannot live without? That the earth can hold only so many people? That we have ALL that we're going to get here on earth? That we may be using what we have been given in ways that are deleterious to all sentient beings? That when we moved from agrarian societies and did not depend on the MACHINE so much, that "they " then had us completely under control? As they do now?

    People don't change. Only laws do. Therefore, as citizens,we MUST have the type of people/leaders that at the very least have the mass of the citizenry in mind when power is exercised and laws are executed. Don't we?

    Wouldn't it be better if EVERYONE were educated? As much as they could possibly handle? And not necessarily to toil away on some zombie treadmill somewhere in homage to plastic, but to encourage critical thinking and the encouragement of new ideas for all of humanity and other inhabitants?

    They will write about us--that's for sure. In what language will we be written about? Just askin',
     
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  12. The only flaw in that plan is Biden's competency. He's a house of cards, some of the previous candidates should resume their suspended campaigns and start figuring out who can actually beat Trump. The only thing that will save Biden on a debate stage now, is a ventriloquist.

    He's sliding fast, oddly, the same as Hillary in 2016.
     
  13. Flagme15

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    He is still on his period.
     
  14. Flagme15

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    Nah, as soon as he names his running mate, Michelle Obama, it's done. Michelle will the first president to serve more than two terms since FDR.

    It would be an interesting debate, a ventriloquist vs a puppet.
     
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  15. Yes, the 10-year president potential is high with Biden's VP choice. A lot higher than Ford!

    Michelle needs non-democrats to win. But she has never hidden the fact she hates non-democrats. Same as Hillary. I still say Gabbard is the best choice to face down Trump. He wouldn't know what to do with a woman who can shrug off his inane and petty insults.
     
  16. hotwater

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    In a recent poll Michelle Obama was voted the most popular woman in the world.
     
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    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Even the republicans have conceded the House this November to the democrats, What they're most worried about
    is keeping the Senate which will be a nail-biter
     
  18. That's not a reason to put her in the top seat.
     
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  19. soulcompromise

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    Ok.

    I watched it.

    I don't see her struggling to sound truthful, if I'm honest. It sounds like what she says is true.

    I think that Biden should step down, but I don't think he will.

    What happens now? We need a polygraph to get Biden to step down. Maybe Bernie can still run. Or Elizabeth Warren or Andrew Yang.

    She could have done this to the primaries. Now it fucks over the entire party. For what?

    I guess these sorts of things aren't politics. It's more about the way it feels to see the man that raped you gearing up to be the President.

    I don't see a way forward.
     
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