2020 Election

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  1. guerillabedlam

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    Sounds racist af to me
     
  2. We'll get back to that in due time. Right now the election cycle is BORING.
     
  3. The owners of those teams are very privileged white people. They are like the people who used to own Gladiators. Evolution is very very slow.
     
  4. Okiefreak

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    Glad you brought up the Asians. They're non-white, but have a very different history from other non-white populations. Nobody brought them over here in chains into bond slavery, although the Chinese who came as indentured servants on eight year contracts in the nineteenth century did experience brutal conditions. They encompass a diversity of racial and ethnic traditions, but the Chinese, Japanese, and South Asian components brought cultural values and family structures that helped them advance. Slavery and institutionalized and informal segregation was highly disruptive to African-American family structure. Native Americans are a mixed bag. If I can venture my own impressions without being accused of racism, I think the tribes from historically nomadic cultures, e.g., Plains Indians, have had a rougher time assimilating than those from more historically sedentary backgrounds.
     
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  5. Asmodean

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    Just because it is abused like that at times, doesn't mean that is the essence of what white privilege is about. I don't see how you would denounce completely there is such a thing... like, just because a lot of white people are poor too.
    I would say it isn't the most pressing issue in american society at all, but if too many people are in denial about it and making that clear, that on itself makes it more important than it has to be.
     
  6. Okiefreak

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    No, basically that's not what I said. Read the posts over and think about it. It may come to you on the bus.
     
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  7. guerillabedlam

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    Again, the disproportiante population of African Americans in prison was presented as evidence to support this, but the Asian population doesn't correlate with that and I think is even less than Whites. So what are we talking about?
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So what stops crossover voting exactly?

    People registering Dem affiliation or not, then intentionally voting for the craziest Dem candidate , Bernie in the primaries
    Knowing full well they are going to vote for Trump in November

    It's a rhetorical question, I already know the answer. You can measure crossover voting primaries to run offs. But doesn't seem to be anyway to measure it against the general election

    The tactic being moderates/ undecideds are going to be too scared of someone like Bernie

    Seems this election in particular, that might be rampant
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So what stops crossover voting exactly?

    People registering Dem affiliation or not, then intentionally voting for the craziest Dem candidate , Bernie in the primaries
    Knowing full well they are going to vote for Trump in November

    It's a rhetorical question, I already know the answer. You can measure crossover voting primaries to run offs. But doesn't seem to be anyway to measure it against the general election

    The tactic being moderates/ undecideds are going to be too scared of someone like Bernie

    Seems this election in particular, that might be rampant
     
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  10. Okiefreak

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    Apples and oranges. Asians are a special case (See post 5344)
     
  11. Okiefreak

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    In most states, the law. Only eleven states have open primaries where such crossover voting is allowed.
     
  12. Okiefreak

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    Summing up my own thoughts on "white privilege", I agree with Tumbling Dice that it's a loaded term that therefore is problematic. Obviously, the term generates hostile reaction, and to poor white people who don't feel particularly privileged, it seems plain wrong. But the poor white person is probably not thinking of the advantage of not being slammed against the wall and frisked when (s)he walks to work, or causing a stir when she tries to move into a certain neighborhood, or not seeing people who look like him or her being portrayed in a favorable light on TV or the movies (that's changing, after relentless protest). So whatever alternative term you can come up with to describe that phenomenon would be welcome.

    I'm ready to move on back to the 2020 elections.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ugh, ok, I will try again


    Changing registered affiliation to Dem, voting for Bernie in the primaries, voting for Trump in the general election. Knowing full well the whole time you were going to vote for Trump in November

    The tactic being you help Dems pick their craziest candidate you don't think can win against Trump

    You don't have any laws that guard against that, people can vote for whoever they want in November. Also no way to track how much that goes on
     
  14. everything bagel

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    :D well done. I suggested calling it majority privilege once but you're right. We're talking about the "political correctness sux" crowd, so the term white privilege stands. It has been decided. You should run for some sort of office
     
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  15. guerillabedlam

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    So white privilege is pervasive but it doesn't affect asians, got it.
     
  16. everything bagel

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    It totally affects Asians
     
  17. everything bagel

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    That's interesting and something I've never considered. It's essentially election hacking but totally legal. Then again the craziest republican won last time so nominating the craziest democrat doesnt necessarily accomplish much
     
  18. It's how the democrats got rid of Cantor. A brilliant move in my opinion. It's not a new strategy.
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Majority privilege is a good possible replacement indeed. But I agree with Mel on this: just because a lot of people insist on misinterpreting and denying it doesn't mean it should be changed. Esp not since these are often the same folks nagging on changing certain terms to more pc ones. Lol the irony there
     
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  20. Okiefreak

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    That's true. That's life.
     
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