2020 Election

Telos being a United States one can actually respect. Not a nation of selfish, self-centered knee-jerk reactionaries constantly at each other's throats with the most childish of name-calling imaginable. The apex predator of which is Donald T. Trump.

I truly don't think they understand what integrity is, Republicans or Democrats. The vast majority simply vote one way or the other because they were raised that way and all of their friends are that way. Both sides are like little cults that disparage anyone from the opposing team, often times as something less than human.

The Republican base certainly isn't as divided as the Democratic base, in so far as I can see. Many Democrats are against global corporatism and simply will not budge when it comes to voting for a candidate that represents that in any way, shape, or form. Whereas I think the Republicans will vote for anyone who becomes the Republican candidate. And the Republican candidate, like all Republicans seem to, knows that all he has to do is tell the base what they want to hear. Though I suppose we shall see.

And if the Republican base were truly opposed to global corporatism, it's kind of obvious that they shouldn't have voted for Trump. All Trump is is a corporation. He inspires the rest of the world to become a giant capitalist machine. Which is in some ways good and some ways bad. Ultimately, I think, bad when it comes to the working class and the poor. Because the rich simply do not care for us.

The way they see it, there has to be a top and there has to be a bottom. It simply isn't feasible to them to live a simpler, less grandiose lifestyle than the one that they do. Which implies a lack of concern and empathy for others. Basically, a lack of integrity.

 

Romney joins the Senate Wednesday. He is preparing to oppose Trump in the 2020 primary. He will draw most of the traditional conservative Republicans to him, leaving only the most extreme wingnuts as Trump's base. A Biden/Booker team would be a formidable foe. Or Biden/Warren, although I think she's more effective in the Senate. Hillary won't get involved and Bernie will blow hard to move the Democrats to the left but won't be on the ticket.

 

Bernie-Anybody 2020!

 

Bernie Sanders/Tulsi Gabbard!

 

Going the same way as before. Pick this women, you have to, yeah progress!

Issue is she is not the best and it is framed as "sexism". This already failed. But the money has pushed the agenda it wishes. You have the illusion of choice once again.

 

Dwayne Johnson and Triple H.

 

Sadly, I don't think Democrats will get anywhere unless they go with Bernie or someone of his ilk, a democratic socialist. The oligarchy must be stopped. A large portion of the base simply will not vote for someone like Biden, or Clinton, or Booker, corporate democrats who think they're a class above the rest of us. But Democrats don't seem to get this. And I doubt the Democratic establishment cares, because Republican or Democrat, there will be oligarchy, and they will be a class above. The Democrats won't win the election, though.

Then there's the matter of Russia, and every other major nation on Earth. And all of the rumors that are going to be spreading about their interference in the next election. Makes me wonder if we're going to have an election like we figure at all. I don't know what you do if the media starts telling you your election is illegitimate. Do they just tell us who the president is, then?

 

There's a rumor going around that there are over 30 indictments. I'll check that out and get back.

 

Yea, we hardly ever win actually. But I have high hopes considering the political climate. I don't agree about a lefty candidate. I think that there will be a more moderate candidate which doesn't really suit my interests. But perhaps they appear to be more stable given said climate. oh well. here's hoping.

 

How friggin old is Biden?

Enough with the crusty geriatric white guy noms already

 

About single pay= They need to quit talking about it until many things happen. It has to ACTUALLY be shown how it can be done on paper, including which governmental agencies can lose a portion of their operating expenses, what will be the tax rates for individuals, married, etc, to draw upon those countries that have it successfully. Maybe even bring reps from Denmark, and the rest of the Scandinavian countries,to work with those tackling the problems of getting it started.
One problem I see right off, relates to the money we make here. It may not be enough quantitatively as those countries I mentioned, as flipping burgers in Denmark nears 18--20 bucks and the taxes are high enough to pay for their system. Our country is so much more rich and WASTEFUL, that we can approach it on a many pronged approach to come up with the proper ways and means. MO.

 

Sanders and Cortez both set records for personal donations and both upset even their fellow demarcates who are still VERY right wing and corporate. It's only a 2 party system that makes us think there has to be a difference.

I think the time has come to abandon the Democratic party. It's common knowledge they stole the election chance for Bernie since Hillary had the seniority and money with her.

We do not need and do not want these polices anymore. We the people can pick candidates now. Go fund me does wonders for many people. If you think you are "left wing" you can not tolerate what the Democrats do any longer. They are corrupt to the core. To follow though on Bernie's plan they need to go.

Republicans seem content with the 1% making the choice the party will survive. They are where they for a reason after all. Above all success in business. Money don't give me that do goody good (liberal) bullshit.

 

The political climate seems good to you, soulcompromise? No offense, that's hilariously sad. Granted, the media has tried to unite the lefty base under the Russian scapegoat. Maybe that worked, I don't know. It didn't work on me. I have yet to see where everyone else is come 2020. Maybe I'm wrong and they've all been brainwashed into thinking Russia and Trump are the ultimate enemy and that we're somehow all on the same side now because of this. That side being in full support of whatever "stable" oligarch Democrat gets shoved down our throats.

Every day I see democrats arguing tooth and nail about who should be the nominee, and there's been no shortage of Bernie hate, either, which is none too smart. Half the Democratic base, myself included, feel horribly disrespected by the other half. And we were told then, basically, that our vote wasn't needed anyway, while at the same time being told not to vote third party. Now they say they lost the election because of us. Well be prepared to lose another one, if that is the case, because it's our way or the highway.

About the illusion of stability, I don't want or need to feel safe as we are led further and further into the grips of oligarchy and all the horrors that entails. I, like many others, prefer the open and honest horror of Trump in that regard. At least now we can see what we're dealing with. Yes, this is where the policies of Clinton, Bush, and Obama have led us. Into the arms of Donald J. Trump. Deny it all you like, but here we are in Trumpland. That's oligarchy for you. Either come along for a complete 180 or enjoy your stay.

 

We can't even have fifteen dollars an hour, because that would mean a dignified lower class that would no longer give a shit so much about the status and celebrity of the upper classes. Their worst fear of becoming a bunch of nobodies would come true.

 

I don't think Warren is a good candidate, and she won't last thru the primaries. I think Biden is the only real chance the dems have.
I am not sure that trump will be the rep nominee in 2020.

 

Why would Trump not be? Republicans are clear they have zero interest in acknowledging any of his crimes. Also they seem to think if they get close enough to 2020 all the Muller stuff has to go away. Or least sell the idea that "first term got nothing so witch hunt".

Hell a good percent of the other Republicans are now unpopular due to Trump. They have a nickname or nasty Tweet all because they crossed the boss. From a PR standpoint few in the party have what is needed to run. They either upset dear leader or lost an election.

Even people who question him LOVE how upset the left wing gets and that alone is enough. Unfortunately there is a deep divide in this country. And everyone blames everyone for it. Either you believe that a Muslim went out his way to attack Christian whites and you are so angry that Americans allowed it. Or you believe your uncle can never come to Christmas again since he wears a red hat and makes red Facebook posts. You are so angry Americans are this angry and full of hate. Either way what you need now is a hero not your typical guy.

Since Trump is more of a celebrity then a politician who better to fight the growing socialist movement in America? Who better to make a white Christian feel heard? After all they see any democrat as un-Christian and pro Muslim. When it comes to religion it's never logical only emotion. They even have a Devil and Hell too. They are called Hillary and Sweden respectfully. No matter what these things are out there just waiting to pounce which is why you need the protection of a strong leader.


The right wing has done an excellent job of selling the idea that you can not trust anyone. People on the other side of the world are waling though Meixco just so in 5 years you have no guns and pray to Allah. When you think this it's hard to accept compromise.

A common tactic in dictatorship by the way. The news lies, the world lies, and they do it all since they can not stand the success I bring. Only I tell the truth. Sound familer?

Like can you really hate Michal Jackson? No cause he made Thriller what he did is different and somehow OK. It did not even happen I bet. Just haters doing what they do. Same thing with Trump, he means something to people. It's a cultural hill to die on. If he fails then the idea fails and gay Muslims get their cake.

All politicians try to work that "I am your neighbor Joe Six Pack" gimmick espeicly among lower class "poorly educated" voters. It's all about fighting the man and saying you are not said man even if you are not the average man.

This is why Russia or any other issues does not matter. Trump made a Thriller.

 

I didn’t vote for Trump in the primary and once he won I knew I couldn’t vote for Hillary so my choice was limited, fortunately I was traveling the week of the election. I have to say election night news was the most comical thing I have seen in 20 plus years. The tears and fears.

What I find comical now is that the mainstream media, if you can still call it that has not been favorable on one thing Trump has done or tried to do. The trade deals have been a huge negative for us since the close of WWII. No president has ever followed through on the promise of renegotiating them until now. I have to give him kudos for that along with border security and the wall. Those in Congress that now that demonize him all supported a barrier and a more secure border.Now it’s a horrible idea. All the opposition want is to gin up news and political support through the media to keep their positions and the media is obliging them. In the mean time all who end up suffering is the populace.

After watching what has transpired in these past two years I have become a supporter of the office of the President.
I have come to the conclusion that he is genuine. Nancy and Chuck are so entrenched in Washington politics it’s pathetic. Why doesn’t the mainstream media show videos from 10 years ago of them railing for border security. They sure would if it was Trump and he was against it in the past. How does Nancy not have a word to say about the recent death of a policeman in California by an illegal..I’m sure once she found out the cop was a legal immigrant all she could say was “oh shit!”

People need to wise up about Democrats, they don’t give a shit about you or anyone, neither do republicans.Trump is not a real republican and he’s not a racist. Maybe a bit of a misogynist, but not a racist. He wasnt hired to win a popularity contest, he was hired to follow up on campaign promises. So far he put great effort into following through and the media has done their level best to thwart his every effort.

So when people talk about dictators and government control this is how it starts, with propaganda spewed by the media.
I am confident the American people will never let them take away our freedom. We need a movement to force term limits in Congress. Now!

 

a rather naive comment.

 

Democrats insist on learning nothing from history. From 2016 - now we’re in an anti-establishment moment. Putting forth old guard established democratic candidates will come across as tone deaf and arrogant. Warren is the wrong choice. So is Sanders, Biden and Clinton.

 

it feels like trump has been in office for ages. please i don't want this Biff Tannen president anymore.

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