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MeAgain · Nov 27, 2019

Vanilla Gorilla said: ↑

Wow, just wow

Jeezus
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Did I misrepresent something? Do you have alternative "facts"?

Deleted member 42017 · Nov 27, 2019

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You seem to have a simplistic view of the world.
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Can't resist a cheap jab. Why? Is it arrogance or an inferiority issue? I usually don't give a flying fuck, but it seems to follow you around.

How much Russian cash went to Trump?

Okiefreak · Nov 27, 2019

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Can't resist a cheap jab. Why? Is it arrogance or an inferiority issue? I usually don't give a flying fuck, but it seems to follow you around.

How much Russian cash went to Trump?
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Who knows? The people who do aren't allowed to testify.

Vanilla Gorilla · Nov 27, 2019

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Even though there's no evidence and never was that there was anything wrong with the donations, or that the Clintons were ever influenced by those donation?

You seem to have a simplistic view of the world.
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I'm going to use that word again, libtard, cos its catchy

You doing that libtard thing again where you just mirror back what someone is accusing you of

How much was it again $150 million, and they werent influenced by that?

And you say he has a simplistic view of the world. Lolz

MeAgain · Nov 27, 2019

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Can't resist a cheap jab. Why? Is it arrogance or an inferiority issue? I usually don't give a flying fuck, but it seems to follow you around.

How much Russian cash went to Trump?
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How is that a cheap jab?
We were talking about the Russians and you bring in the Clintons, implying what? And why?

You have a simplistic view becasue you equate the Russian government with all Russians, and the Clinton's charitable organization, which has never been proven to have done anything wrong, and try confuse us by presenting a simplistic hodgepodge of unrelated facts.

How much Russian money went to Trump?

...an ABC News investigation found he has numerous connections to Russian interests both in the U.S. and abroad.

“The level of business amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars — what he received as a result of interaction with Russian businessmen,” said Sergei Millian, who heads a U.S.-Russia business group and who says he once helped market Trump’s U.S. condos in Russia and the former Soviet states. “They were happy to invest with him, and they were happy to work with Donald Trump. And they were happy to associate—[and] be associated with Donald Trump.”
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“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” ~ Donald Trump Jr., 2008
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“he could not get anybody in the United States to lend him anything. It was all coming out of Russia. His involvement with Russia was deeper than he’s acknowledged.” ~ Alan Lapidus, Trump's architect
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Buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City, according to a new analysis shared with McClatchy. Many of them made purchases using shell companies designed to obscure their identities.
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..and so on, of course we don't really know as Trump refuses to release his tax returns...after promising to do so.

MeAgain · Nov 27, 2019

Vanilla Gorilla said: ↑

I'm going to use that word again, libtard, cos its catchy

You doing that libtard thing again where you just mirror back what someone is accusing you of

How much was it again $150 million, and they werent influenced by that?

And you say he has a simplistic view of the world. Lolz
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You're talking about Sean Hannity, Peter Schweizer, and the $145 million donated to the Clinton Fund.
Investigated and found to be bull shit in 2015.

In his May 5, 2015 book Clinton Cash, Breitbart News editor Peter Schweizer asserted that the Clinton Foundation received $145 million in pledges and donations in exchange for Hillary Clinton's support of the Uranium One deal. This assertion has been repeated numerous times across conservative media, particularly by Sean Hannity, as evidence of a bribery scheme. However, $31 million of this amount was donated by Frank Giustra in 2005, and another $100 million pledged by him in 2007, the latter amount after he had severed ties with Uranium One. Both cases occurred years before any prospective Uranium One sale to Russian interests was known. PolitiFact identified about $4 million in donations from various Uranium One investors in the years before and after the Russian deal, but these amounts do not appear to be unusual compared to amounts that countless other donors have made to the Clinton Foundation.[29][30][31]
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And 2016:

By August 2016, the FBI had begun to confidentially investigate the Clinton Foundation, based largely on Schweizer's book and reporting by The New York Times, but they failed to find much evidence to support corruption allegations.[2] As the investigation lay dormant, Attorney General Jeff Sessions in December 2017 ordered Justice Department prosecutors to ask FBI investigators about the evidence they had gathered. Sessions was responding to demands of Republican members of Congress for a special counsel to be appointed to investigate Uranium One and other matters relating to Hillary Clinton and the FBI.[32] CNN reported on March 29, 2018 that Sessions had appointed John W. Huber, the United States Attorney for the District of Utah, to investigate "a cluster of Republican-driven accusations against the FBI," which includes allegations that the FBI acted inappropriately in two matters involving Hillary Clinton, including her emails and the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom. In a letter to three Republican Congressional committee chairmen, Sessions said he would rely on Huber's findings to decide if a special counsel needed to be appointed. Huber had been investigating the matters for a time, but his involvement had not previously been disclosed.[33]

Several members of Clinton's State Department staff and officials from the Obama-era Department of Justice have said that CFIUS reviews are handled by civil servants and that it would be unlikely that Clinton would have had more than nominal involvement in her department's signing off on the acquisition.[34] According to Snopes, the timing of donations might have been questionable if Hillary Clinton had played a key role in approving the deal, but all evidence suggests that she did not and may in fact have had no role in approving the deal at all.[35]
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And 2017:

In October 2017, following a report by John F. Solomon and Alison Spann published in The Hill and citing anonymous sources,[36][37] the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee opened an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the sale of Uranium One.[34] The Hill story insinuated payments from Russians to the Clinton Foundation at the time when the Obama administration approved the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom.[38] The story also focused on the alleged failures of the Department of Justice to investigate and report on the controversy, suggesting a cover-up.[38] Subsequently, the story "took off like wildfire in the right-wing media ecosystem," according to a 2018 study by scholars at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society, Harvard University.[38] The Hill reported, "There is no evidence in any of the public records that the FBI believed that the Clintons or anyone close to them did anything illegal. But there's definitive evidence the Russians were seeking their influence with a specific eye on the State Department."

FactCheck.org reported that there was "no evidence" connecting the Uranium One–Rosatom merger deal with a money laundering and bribery case involving a different Rosatom subsidiary which resulted in the conviction of a Russian individual in 2015, contrary to what is implied in the Solomon-Spann story.[27][39] Glenn Kessler of The Washington Post wrote that the problem with some of the accusations that Republican commentators levied against Clinton is that she "by all accounts, did not participate in any discussions regarding the Uranium One sale."[40]
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And 2018:

In March 2018, Attorney General Jeff Sessions revealed that he had declined to appoint a special counsel to investigate, among other matters, the alleged connections between Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation and, instead, had ordered John W. Huber, U.S. Attorney for the District of Utah, on November 22, 2017, to look into whether further investigation is warranted.[54][55][56][57]

Nonprofit American Oversight obtained Session's letter in 2019 through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request they had filed in 2017; the United States Department of Justice had claimed in 2018 that the letter did not exist.[57]

In 2018, unreliable sources, including the New York Post, falsely reported an indictment in the Tenex/Rosatam kickback scheme as a "first indictment" resulting from Rosatom's purchase of Uranium One.[58] The rumor was rated false by PolitiFact and Snopes.[58][59]
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Deleted member 313194 · Nov 27, 2019

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So your reply to the fact that the Russian government has many bad actors is to try and sidetrack us with donations that some Russians gave to the Clinton foundation?
Even though there's no evidence and never was that there was anything wrong with the donations, or that the Clintons were ever influenced by those donation?

You seem to have a simplistic view of the world.
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Ok...
What if they are using the donation as part of the collusion rumours?

Deleted member 42017 · Nov 27, 2019

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you equate the Russian government with all Russians
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That's a bigoted assumption on your part, not mine.

6-eyed shaman · Nov 28, 2019

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MeAgain · Nov 28, 2019

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Ok...
What if they are using the donation as part of the collusion rumours?
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I have no idea what you're talking aobut.

The Clinton Foundation is one of the most investigated and highly respected charity organizations in the world.

No collusion about anything has ever been found in connection with it.

soulcompromise · Nov 28, 2019

I've always trusted the Clintons. I was a teenager when Bill was in the White House and think there's an innate trust because of that. But he did lie while in office, intentions be damned, he did. I voted for Hillary too. I like the way Hillary speaks to a crowd. I don't remember the way Bill speaks to a crowd.

soulcompromise · Nov 28, 2019

But the Clintons aren't up for election. I think Bernie will have to do, despite all my energy on Joe Biden earlier in time. I liked lots of the candidates at different times. I think the most prevalent factor in what I like in a candidate's demeanor is the way that they speak! But beyond that, Bernie's message seems to be consistently people driven, and for that reason I feel like he can be trusted.

If nothing gets done in Congress because of a Sanders White House, then at least America will see someone in the leadership that cares for the people!

Meliai · Nov 28, 2019

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But the Clintons aren't up for election. I think Bernie will have to do, despite all my energy on Joe Biden earlier in time. I liked lots of the candidates at different times. I think the most prevalent factor in what I like in a candidate's demeanor is the way that they speak! But beyond that, Bernie's message seems to be consistently people driven, and for that reason I feel like he can be trusted.

If nothing gets done in Congress because of a Sanders White House, then at least America will see someone in the leadership that cares for the people!
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Welcome to the light side

lode · Nov 28, 2019

Meliai said: ↑

Welcome to the light side
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BernieThanksgiving by lode posted Nov 28, 2019 at 7:30 AM

Meliai · Nov 28, 2019

My Trump supporting uncle wont know what hit him

Deleted member 42017 · Nov 28, 2019

MeAgain said: ↑

one of the most investigated and highly respected charity organizations
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I really LOVE this line. It's a furniture polish AND a dessert topping!

Deleted member 42017 · Nov 28, 2019

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My Trump supporting uncle wont know what hit him
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Aw that's so cool, we have food fights too!

Meliai · Nov 28, 2019

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Aw that's so cool, we have food fights too!
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I actually wouldnt dare bring up politics with my family
I've already gotten an email from my brother this morning about the war on thanksgiving lol, if that tells you where they are on the political spectrum

Vladimir Illich · Nov 28, 2019

Meliai said: ↑

I actually wouldnt dare bring up politics with my family
I've already gotten an email from my brother this morning about the war on thanksgiving lol, if that tells you where they are on the political spectrum
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If that was me, Mel darlin' - I'd tell 'em to "sod off", I have a mind of my own and since you're living in a free country, you are entitled to voice your opinion irrespective of whether your family approve or not !!!

Deleted member 42017 · Nov 28, 2019

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I actually wouldnt dare bring up politics with my family
I've already gotten an email from my brother this morning about the war on thanksgiving lol, if that tells you where they are on the political spectrum
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I'm with you, slinging mashed taters is so much better than talking about Biden, Trump, the Clintons, Gabbard, Warren, Obama and Chris Matthews.

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