2020 Election

I keep saying it, but it bears repeating... the real trick is getting it paid for. And she is adamant that it can be done. In that case I'm honestly impressed. & I hope she does it. Because I think what she's proposing is more humane to those who need our humanity, even where it's at the expense of those who are better off.

 

The issue isn't whether it can be paid for, when corruption and incompetence are normal. You cannot put the cart before the horse, and either you have honest government that represents the people, or its a fucking freak show complete with lots of dramatic waving of hands in the air. Donald Duck undid almost everything Obama did in 8 years.

 

it depends on your priorities. lol

I think that it's really hard to imagine, what is it that they're saying? 27 trillion dollars or something for 10 years of program, not coming from anywhere. It's just going to pay for itself?

My thinking was, and I say was because I hear Elizabeth and I want to change my tune... was that it's more realistic to think about middle class taxes paying their fair share. She says no. They won't have to. Maybe she's trying to get more middle class votes, but it sounds good in theory. I don't see the rich saying it's a good idea though.

 

I'm saying the Libertarians rigged our elections and began shredding our constitution twenty years ago. Clinton balanced our budget, then Bush destroyed the entire world economy, then Obama expanded medicare and got the budget under control, only to have Donald Duck trash everything again. Get it straight, you cannot buy either an honest or a competent government. You must demand one. All the protections that FDR put in place are long gone, and there is nothing to keep the wolves at bay, unless you trust fucking Fox News!

If the US demanded honesty in advertising, Fox News would have to have "For Entertainment Purposes" superimposed over their entire broadcast. The simple fact is, watching Fox News literally shortens people's lifespans, because it is the worst garbage imaginable being fed to people as real news. The only reason Donald Duck has lost, is because he got caught red handed committing fucking treason, because it was all to fucking easy for him. He is merely the tip of the iceberg, and you don't want to see where this leads. Bernie Madoff did the same thing, working a billion dollar ponzi scheme that was blatantly obvious to everyone on Wall Street.

 

She is getting a divorce.. I don't see how her sex life has anything to do with how good a representative she is.
come on man, get over it.

 

Well, try and see it from a different point of view. Is what she did socially acceptable? Is it deviant? If so, do you want deviant behaviors to represent you? And if it's not deviant and is socially acceptable for you, then we simply do not agree on what those things mean.

I think that what she did was wrong. Similarly, I think what Bill Clinton did with the intern was incorrect. These are elected officials that are expected to behave responsibly.

 

Its hard enough just to get them to behave when they're at work. If people actually demanded honest government, surprise, they might get honest politicians with little to hide.

 

They're not supposed to have time for liaisons in my opinion. We pay their salaries. Are they thinking about things seriously, or are they perverts?

I guess you just object to the idea that what she's doing is perverted. Maybe that word should go the way of retarded. But sex is a big obsession for people. Unless you can balance both. Which I would agree should be easy. But not if you're constantly thinking about sex.

You can't be a swinger and simultaneously expect people to think you care about their problems. Somehow, you just can't. I'm just being honest.

 

I think it's weird for people to concern themselves with the sex life of a politician.

Like, no one gives a shit what I do in my spare time or who I have sex with, no one thinks that affects my job at all. So why does anyone have a right to intrude on a politician's right to privacy? Being an elected official is a job and they're allowed to leave their jobs at work and engage in their own private lives, just like anyone else.

If it's done on the taxpayer's dime or if it's someone in a position of power taking advantage of a subordinate (which is what I think happened in the case of Clinton) then it's wrong. But when it involves 2 ...or 3 ..whatever...consenting adults, it isnt really anyone's business.

Americans love a good sex scandal though

 

Cheap thrills and instant gratification are the only substitutes for a complete lack of personal integrity. Americans would rather spend all their time with the rich and famous, then with someone who is authentic. Ask them how good their vacation was, and they will calculate how much it cost, ask them if Donald Duck or a winno in the gutter is more important, and they will insist Donald Duck is despite his about to be convicted of treason, and the winno likely to be a veteran, while Donald Duck is a draft dodging asshole and wannabe used car salesman.

 

How did we get onto this? I must lead a sheltered life here in Oklahoma, since I never heard the word "throuple" until Orison brought it up. I don't really care to find out more about it. So Katie Hill is a California politician. What's with her that's so controversial? Is she doing whatever it is in public? Whatever consenting adults do in private is their own business, politicians included, but if they're not adults and/or not keeping it private that's another story. How did California Globe come up with that photo, and why do you think they published it?

 

I could careless she had a threesome.. its interesting that's all. people make like politicians dont fuck.

 

Throuple is the younger generation and the mass media attempting to give words more meaning, by inventing new ones. The idea of actually sharing the words they have and playing nice is not on anyone's agenda.

 

I think you are rather naive. Americans have practiced "unacceptable sexual behavior" forever. furthermore, Katie wasn't having a throuple during working hours.

 

this place is worse than 4chan with the fake profiles tripping on peyote.. I said it wasnt election worth just interesting.. dang..

 

You are correct. She is a newly elected representative. She defeated the incumbent in a red district. She does not represent me, but she represents an adjoining district. She has a lot of support. She keeps her head low, and does her job.

 

More power to her!

 

Sadly, these days that makes her one of the best politicians you can have, because she's likely to stick with the job and not have grand ambitions.

 

I'd never heard the word before now, either. I'd only heard it called a threesome. That's beside the point, though. The point being that if you're focused on sex, you're not focused on your work. And having a threesome is beyond the pale for your average American family, who doesn't want to ruin their family, especially by engaging their children in their sexual proclivities. We think we keep it all hush-hush, or we don't try to keep it hush-hush at all. But I was a kid, and you were a kid, and we were all aware of things most people don't think we should have been aware of. And it's only gotten worse. (Understatement of the year?)

We're pretty much accepting this. I don't know who would want us to be accepting of the amount and the kinds of sex our children are seeing. It's like, okay, well that's a child molester, right?

There should be more comprehensive child endangerment laws, such that it should be against the law for a parent to have a child anywhere where there is nearby access to pornography.

 

I and most adults I know enjoy sex in their after work activities. Politicians are no different. This doesn't make us perverts, so long as it's done with other adults and humans. I agree that obsession with sex is unhealthy and can interfere with a balanced life. I'm also the old fashioned type who thinks it should be confined to monogamous marital relations and kept from the children. But if somebody else prefers to do it differently, I see no problem--if it's discrete, private, consensual, adult and with human partners. What I find much more disturbing is the exposing of people's private sex lives by blackmailers or political opponents in order to try to discredit them. Ken Starr's investigation of the Clinton-Lewinsky affair was a good example of that kind of hypocrisy at work. Let (s)he who is without sin cast the first stone. I do agree that our culture has gone to the dogs sexually--anything goes--and that it has a corrosive effect on other aspects of morality, as well as politics.