2020 Election

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  1. Oh, it's a game? What fun.
     
  2. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    they will with-hold your tax refund for student debt. Serious shit.

    I don't think that Trump had anything to do with that law.
     
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    No, but Biden did. Which is why I dont think he's a particularly good alternative to Trump. That and his role in the 1990s crime bill. Both policies turned out to be pretty disastrous
     
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  5. For some reason renting to people with completely sketchy backgrounds AND credit, seems to be normal in Atlanta. Having been homeless, I can certainly relate. I destroyed my credit trying to be a financial big shot playing bank float back in the 80s. A deposit was delayed and the whole mess came crashing down. Took many years to pay it all back. I had to rent a room in several homes that were converted into rooming houses. Some were just expensive enough for me to have trouble saving enough to get into a regular apartment.

    Most of the landlords I have had only wanted to know when the money would arrive. Most of them also found flimsy reasons to deny my cleaning deposit be returned. There are SO many con artists in the rental business.

    As for student loans, it's an intricate trap if you're careless about it. If you take deferments, the loan balance grows. This is our government, for the people, creating the potential for vortices of debt to haunt people to their graves. I guess it's better than actual chains or having to sell off body parts. Biden, Clinton and a few others let Sallie Mae turn into a government version of Enron, as a collection agency. A nightmarish debt factory.

    Especially if you major in something deemed frivolous, limited or saturated. Good luck paying off that Scottish Castle Architectural History degree working at Home Depot.
     
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    With Biden you will get the same as Trump, but he wont be able to remember anything
     
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  7. Even back then Biden was a popular Washington fixer. That crime bill was a mess to be sure, lots of people I know have been snared by it. It was a knee jerk reaction to the crack epidemic. As slow as Washington moves, crack was declining substantially by the time the crime bill went into effect. It's also where the crack/powder issue was decided. However, that was a reaction to the petitioning Washington was getting from black community leaders and clergy. They wanted the crack dealers to go away and stay away so the communities could heal. And it actually worked. (today it's racist white supremacy or some such shit)
     
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    He always gets this dumb look on his face when people bring up his past, like he's genuinely shocked
    I really think he doesnt always remember lol
     
  9. wooleeheron

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    One in five people insists the sun revolves around the earth, I think their representative heard what they have to say, but we don't have the technology yet to figure out what it means.
     
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    Its difficult to have an informed electorate, when nobody can agree what the word means.
     
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    When the hounds are on to you throw them a piece of meat to slow them on the trail.
     
  14. wooleeheron

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    Without an even remotely functional conservative party, its every man and woman for themselves which, of course, means those with money behind them. The last thing the Democrats want is someone to start offering honest government outside the existing two parties. Bernie is the most popular politician in the country, and could never get his party's nomination. How many democrats do you think would abandon ship if the republican party fell apart altogether? Green is looking better every year, with serious environmental collapse possible at any time now.
     
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    he is surprised You remembered...…...
     
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    Presidential elections are binary choices. It's doubtful that any President is up to the job of taking care of all the deserving people and causes in the country. I'll settle for one who is decent, honest, competent and has the national interest at heart. That isn't Trump. I'm skeptical that any of the Democrats will take care of the poor woman's problems either, although some may at least give it a shot. My understanding is that previous presidents promised student loan forgiveness for those who entered public service or occupations servicing disadvantaged populations--and didn't always follow through.
    Federal Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program Still Forgives Almost No One
    Why Public Service Loan Forgiveness Is So Unforgiving

    Focusing on single issues and solutions is risky because it ignores the total set of problems and available resources that require prioritization. Student debt cancellation could produce positive economic and social benefits.
    Top 6 Things Congress Could Do to Help Student Loan Borrowers | Student Loan Hero
    Want to grow the US economy? Cancel student debt, new report shows
    Trouble is, the candidates pushing student loan forgiveness (Bernie and Elizabeth) are also promising many other programs for "major structural change". Elizabeth's plan for student loan forgiveness would exclude those who are making over $250,000 a year. Bernie would forgive the loans of even those in the latter category. Forgive me if I'm skeptical that they'll be able to do it all (all the structural change, I mean) without breaking the bank.
     
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    with that, whoever wins the primary is the only valid option imo. I don't care who it is! lol

    I will take what I can get...

    I saw a sticker on a car something to the effect of "Any Competent Adult for President!" I think that summarized it well for a lot of people.
     
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    Which is exactly why Democrats will look for a nobody, a Casper Milktoast if they can find one in the available pool of sharks. The money is driving both parties, and its impossible to do it otherwise, without someone demanding serious champaign reform and election reform. If they nail Giuliani to the cross, like the Mafia bosses he emulates, it will be the signal to eat the rich, before they eat us alive. A little fine dining for the mindless mob.
     
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  20. What we really need is to make America fun again. Fuck great. This shit is boring. Legalize it. Give me some high speed trains, you know? It's just mind rot. We've got absolutely nothing to work towards to.

    Seriously, we're all supposed to give a shit about corporate America. NONE OF US GIVE A SHIT. I wish I could get this across to the people of Starbucks, and McDonald's, and Wal-Mart. Your businesses mean shit to all of your workers. No one cares, except for freaks. Oh well, I'm not going to get into it, but seriously, give us SOMETHING.
     
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