2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politics' started by WritersPanic, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. WritersPanic

    WritersPanic Greasing up my Staff Member Super Moderator

    With Senator Warren announcing an exploratory committee for a potential presidential run, it occurs to me that the season is almost upon us. While it's too early for bets, I don't think Warren will be as popular as she thinks. Besides, Hillary could run again!

    The other rumblings from the democrat side are aligned with a fantasy ticket of Beto/Sanders but there's another one for Biden/Warren. Good to see democrats so motivated early in the game. Reacting late has screwed Gore, the Clintons and George HW Bush (people expected GW to be slow, Reagan too).

    Another aspect of this I find interesting is that the republicans are holding their convention in Charlotte, in August. The "Queen City" is a known southern powder keg. It makes me wonder which republican even suggested it. Seems like they'd opt for a "friendly" location (aka, expensive).

    Democrats still haven't made up their minds, but they're looking at Milwaukee, Denver, Houston and Miami. The only safe bet I see is Denver with Houston in a close second. Miami? No way. Even democrats want to feel safe around their constituents, look where Congressperson Waters lives.

    I don't think Senator Ocasio-Cortez is a "wise Latina" version of Obama, but then Obama only had 140 or so days in the senate before announcing his bid. It could happen, she has more time than Obama to be coached into the top seat.

    Finally, the GOP. I think it's more than obvious Trump could simply buy his way to a second term. But he's not really a republican and everybody in the party knows it. So he may earn a historical tick mark for being an incumbent president who is challenged by his own party. The current republican bull pen doesn't have any serious contenders south of Pence.

    I'm optimistic an organized group of republicans are considering how they would even prop a challenger up after the waxing Trump gave to the republicans grown up AND kid's tables. He even had the gall to go after the saintly doctor Carson. Since republicans are electing "reality" stars, I wonder if Vanilla Ice or Ron Jeremy would be willing to swing for a cause.

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  2. I like warren fine i just don't like her chances. But then I don't take politics very seriously of late. It's hard with you know who in the white house. It slowly feels more and more pointless.
     
  3. WritersPanic

    WritersPanic Greasing up my Staff Member Super Moderator

    I've been saying that since Carter!
     
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  4. GuerrillaLorax

    GuerrillaLorax along the peripheries of civilization

    Yeah electoral politics seem like a sham and a waste of time to me. There seem to be more effective things to be spending time on
     
  5. Dems have no chance for a Pres until 2024

    Trump knows how to play the media, he calls Warren Pocahontus, thats funny
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    It begins.
     
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  7. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

  8. eggsprog

    eggsprog liberalobamacommunist HipForums Supporter

    I don't know who they could run and win with, other than maybe Sanders if his health stays decent. I think it will depend on Trump's legal situation.
     
  9. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    I kinda like that Ojeda guy.

    He's working class from West Virginia so he could easily pick up swing votes from disillusioned Trump voters.
    And he's embraced a progressive platform.

    He doesnt really have any political experience but hey, neither did Trump. And I like the idea of regular people from normal backgrounds getting involved in politics without much experience a lot more than I like rich guys doing it.

    Plus, he has a military background. Which is a plus when a nation is engaged in perpetual warfare. He understands the true cost of war.

    And Trump wouldnt be able to get to him with his usual childish insults. If he insults Regular Joe from working class West Virginia he'll only alienate his base

    Probably a long shot but American politics are so weird right now the long shot might end up having a decent shot
     
  10. As a progressive Democrat I'm leaning toward O'Roark. But whoever we pick, we'll find some way to screw it up. As Will Rogers said "I don't belong to an organized party. I'm a Democrat."

    Trump will fight tooth and nail for the nomination because if he doesn't serve a second term he will go to jail!

    Can't wait for subpoenas to start flying on Jan. 3.
     
  11. WritersPanic

    WritersPanic Greasing up my Staff Member Super Moderator

    Somebody says that about every president. It fattens the wallets of lawyers, nobody important goes to jail. Just the hired stooges (where killing them would raise too many red flags).
     
  12. WritersPanic

    WritersPanic Greasing up my Staff Member Super Moderator

    Sanders looks even more like the Crypt Keeper than Bill Clinton. He's weirdly spry for an old codger. I figure he gets transfusions of virgin blood. And maybe some coke.
     
  13. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eyed salmon

    Watch out
    If Warren gets 1/1024 of the vote, she will claim herself as president.
     
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  14. neonspectraltoast

    neonspectraltoast Best Member

    I don't get why people think Bernie is older than all of the other potential candidates he's no older than.

    The Democratic base is completely divided. One half doesn't think the other half understands the true meaning of being progressive.

    The Republicans on the other hand don't understand progress whatsoever, but at least they're solidly united in this lack of understanding. That's why they will win.

    The Democratic establishment is just a scam. They're not progressive, not in the sense that true progressives would like them to be. And they won't get our votes, once again. I just can't believe they didn't learn their lesson in 2016. But, then, I suppose it's not like it really matters to them, so long as the establishment keeps getting richer.
     

  15. Warren is just too boring.

    I never got the anti Hillary thing, of course you have to get your hands dirty as US S.O.S.

    I hope she runs again. Go Hillary!!!
     
  16. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member

    Tomorrow the Democratic party will assume control over the House of Representatives.
    Trump won’t be around long enough to break wind before he’s impeached.


    You’re right Sen. Warren (who I voted for last November) doesn’t stand a chance in a National election, but Joe Biden, does.
     
  17. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

    Progress implies telos.
    It isn't that they don't understand your idea of progress, it's that they don't agree with your conclusions (both articulated and covert)
    Anyway the Republicans are quite divided in their own right (nationalists vs global corporatism)
     
  18. quark

    quark Parts Unknown

    Ventura-Stern 2020
     
  19. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member

    I like Jesse Ventura but in recent years he’s gone off the rails and I think he's starting to lose it
     

  20. Never going to happen
     
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