2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

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  1. Vladimir Illich

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    Then there's this :


    Coronavirus PPE: Gowns ordered from Turkey fail to meet safety standards
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    Some of the surgical gowns ordered from Turkey amid a row over the procurement of personal protective equipment for the NHS do not meet British safety standards, the UK government has said.

    The gowns were among a batch of 400,000 sourced by ministers last month and the RAF flew out to collect them when they were not shipped on the expected date.

    But it has emerged 2,400 of the 67,000 gowns that have so far arrived in the UK have failed quality checks.

    Only 4,500 have been given to the NHS.

    The remaining gowns from the shipment are still being tested.

    News of the faulty gowns were first reported by the Daily Telegraph on Thursday morning - prompting the prime minister's spokesperson to say the NHS was speaking to the supplier about getting replacements or a refund.

    The Department of Health later clarified that a "small number" had failed tests in the UK and it had only paid an "initial deposit".

    A spokesman for the Turkish company which supplied the goods said it had not received any complaints.

    Mehmet Duzen, from Selegna Tekstil, told the BBC the company had not had any communication from the NHS, the British embassy in Ankara, or British government officials complaining about the quality of its gowns.

    "The fabric we supplied was certified. All the goods were certified," he said, adding that they were ready to respond if there was a mistake.

    During the past few months as the UK has tackled the coronavirus pandemic, healthcare workers including doctors and nurses have complained of a lack of adequate kit such as gowns, masks and gloves.

    PPE is essential for protecting front-line workers exposed to Covid-19, and without it workers are concerned they could catch or spread the virus.

    The Department of Health said it was working "night and day to source PPE".

    After several delays, the RAF was deployed to Istanbul to fly the PPE it had sourced from Turkey to RAF Brize Norton on 22 April.

    The chief executive of the NHS Confederation, representing health and care leaders, said the shipment from Turkey had been "sizeable" but had only offered a few days supply.

    Niall Dickson told the BBC Radio 4's Today programme that NHS bosses understood that the quality of equipment was "not always what it says in the box" but warned that making promises that are not kept "undermines confidence" in the government among frontline staff.

    He added that supplies were now "generally better" in hospital but that care homes and GP surgeries still face "some difficulties".
     
  2. hotwater

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    Ellen DeGeneres announces she has COVID-19, talk show shut down

    Ellen has tested positive for COVID-19.

    The embattled daytime talk show host revealed her health status on The Ellen DeGeneres Show's Twitter feed on Thursday.

    "Hi Everyone," DeGeneres wrote. "I want to let you all know that I tested positive for Covid-19. Fortunately, I'm feeling fine right now. Anyone who has been in close contact with me has been notified, and I am following all proper CDC guidelines. I'll see you all again after the holidays. Please stay healthy and safe."
     
  3. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    THANK GOD!
    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOREVER TO BE SCHOOLED BY SOMEONE WHO THINKS THAT THEY'RE SMARTER THAN THE WHO, CDC, NIH, AND NHS!
    (As if I was really stupid enough to ignore expert advice and listen to some anonymous Internet troll instead)
    When and how to use masks
    Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
    Masks Save Lives
     
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  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And yet you just posted an article on a Sth Korean study that tells you 6 ft social distancing indoors was always inadequate

    6ft/1.5m/2m has always been the advice from the WHO, CDC etc

    So explain why that advice is clearly wrong

    Now, I've been saying all year 6ft is some obvious bullshit, me, the supposed internet troll. If I am more correct than seemingly every one at the CDC, how can that possibly be?

    All the rest of you idiots will still be like, oh the guy I stood behind at wallmart for 5 mins that used the same handrail as I did, was wearing a cloth mask so I'm safe, becuase Fauci said any kind of mask and we are safe

    D'uh duh errrrr duh ugh errrrr
     
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    Problems with digestion? You may want to have that checked out.
     
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  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Looks like you will hit 5000 deaths in a single day in January

    And you will still be all like, oh it's only those bad Trump supporters not wearing masks that are spreading it

    It's one thing if we are crapping on about something that's not really going to affect you in your lifetime, like sea level rises


    But totally a different thing when it's something that affects your own immediate survival. Just my god. There aren't enough facepalms
     
  7. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    I rest my case.
     
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  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    "Clinical trials of a COVID-19 vaccine being developed by the University of Queensland in partnership with biotech company CSL have been abandoned after trial participants returned false positive HIV test results.

    The vaccine is one of four the Federal Government had committed to purchasing, and agreements had been made to secure 51 million doses of the vaccine.

    In a statement to the Australian Stock Exchange, CSL said it would not progress with trials, however stressed the vaccine had a "strong safety profile".

    CSL also said participants were told before the trial started that the vaccine could interfere with certain HIV diagnostic tests."

    Coronavirus vaccine trials of candidate developed by UQ and CSL abandoned due to false positive HIV results - ABC News
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    That case being that once its pointed out to you that that article you yourself posted on the Sth Korean study saying social distancing should be 21+ feet indoors in a way proves you've been a chump for the last 8 months you want to go back to sticking your head in the sand


    This is the guidance from the CDC website pulled today

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  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Evidence of the coronavirus which causes COVID-19 disease was detected in a four-year-old Milan boy months before Italy recorded its first case, researchers say.

    Chronologically, the finding also precedes the cases of “viral pneumonia” linked to a seafood market in Wuhan, China and reported on December 31, 2019.

    Speaking about the boy, Professor of Global Health at the University of Milan, Mario C. Raviglione, told Sky News: “A year ago, this child started having symptoms on the 21st of November, which means that assuming there’s an incubation period of three to four days, some time around the middle of November he was infected.”

    Swab from Milan boy, 4, tests positive to coronavirus weeks before Wuhan outbreak
     
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    Celebrated US actress Carol Sutton, 76, has died from coronavirus complications in her home city of New Orleans where she began her career on the stage.

    She was being treated in hospital and died on Thursday night.

    For half a century, she appeared in Hollywood films and TV series including Steel Magnolias, Queen Sugar, and True Detective.

    Carol Sutton: Steel Magnolias actress dies from Covid-19
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Gah, there were only 162 people out of 21,728 in the placebo group that got covid anyway and thats what they are basing 95% efficacy on


    "A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo;"

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

    21,720 got the Pfizer vaccine, 0.039% of them got covid
    21,728 got the Placebo, 0.746% of them got covid

    0.039% is 95% less than 0.746%. All it really means is it stopped 0.7% less people getting covid

    This is a disaster waiting to happen
     
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  17. hotwater

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    In other words, while interesting, they still haven’t located patient zero
     
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    US COVID-19 Update 12/16/20

    230,000 new cases 113,000 hospitalizations (a single day record) 3,400+ deaths (Shattering the single day record)
     
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    Among 10 cases of severe Covid-19 with onset after the first dose, 9 occurred in placebo recipients and 1 in a BNT162b2 recipient
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    162/21,728= 0.746%

    Not even 1% of the placebo group got covid
     
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