2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. Of the 100,000 of deaths, how many were from Covid only????? 10,000 or so .... so many all had dreadful diseases. If one had a strong immune system and healthy overall, they would not get the covid ......

    I am 82 and have NO chronic health issue related to my immune system except I deal with arthritic surgery botch and OA in general. Does not affect immune system....I do NOT follow fauci's gospel. I can't be the only one in the world...
     
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  2. Maintenance man just left as he had to replace a new light fixture in my kitchen, made in china, it lasted a little over a month...I asked him if he runs into a lot of sick people and he knows no one, and just came back from Europe where he still has family and same there...agrees it's a bunch of B.S. that has been thrown at us by China via Facui and company.
     
  3. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    During the 1918 pandemic 195.000 Americans died in the month of October
     
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    I have just seen the official TOTAL death toll figures for the period ending 11th September 2020. (England and Wales)
    They are 5.4% up on the 5 year average with 1% recorded as covid without life threatening conditions.
    While they are higher than 2016 and 19, they are LOWER than 15, 17 and 18.

    Talk about a storm in a teacup.............. More like a nuclear bomb in an eggcup ..............
     
  7. And do you know what all the other health conditions they all had, any of these 1918 population taking Vit C, D, Zinc....of course not.....

    Those who died were poor and struggling more than most I would say, my parents were 9 and 10 and never a word of the 1918 flu was mentioned in my lifetime with them....

    Most today are poor and struggling and unwell so are ripe for viruses...
     
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  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    April 21st

    UK ONS Figures Show Three Times More Deaths From Flu & Pneumonia Than Coronavirus

    Yeah, early on especially a lot of flu and pneumonia cases were being misdiagnosed as covid

    Showed up in the US data as well

    COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics

    77,000 out of 179,000 deaths at the time (43%) were listed as having influenza and or pneumonia


    And the deaths seem to be split evenly into the respiratory side of the virus and the blot clotting and associated problems

    Safe to say on the respiratory side, half the deaths were actually influenza (1/2 of 43% are influenza not Covid) especially early on; March and April

    And on the blood clotting side, a as yet to be determined set of ancillary causes that result in people dying of renal failure from a coronavirus, which definately isn't the virus alone


    Both the US and Japan were closing schools in 2019 because of the swine flu strain re-emerging, it just didn't get a whole lot of attention

    Flu Season 2019: Schools Across US Are Closing Despite Lack of CDC Guidance

    Millions in Japan affected as flu outbreak grips country
     
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  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You seem angrier than usual lately

    Why is that? Is it all starting to click

    Track and Trace was never going to track down 100% of cases no matter who is in charge

    Any vaccine will take years to have an effect because you'll have a bitch of a time getting enough of the population to give a crap

    UK will have to fill a gigantic hole in its tax revenue of a couple hundred billion pounds, and you havent had half the banks collapse yet

    Thanks to the lockdowns you are most likely headed for another monstrous flu season
     
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  10. For sure. most of the world population are waiting with baited breath for that miracle vaccine. and won't spend pennies to prop up their own immune systems... Good luck, they can keep waiting...
     
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  11. wilsjane

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    What people cannot seem to grasp is that no virus can kill someone.

    When the white blood cells that attack it fail, the dead cells are then attacked by bacteria, In the lungs, this leads to pneumonia, septicemia and if the person is ALREADY sick death. In other parts of the body, renal failure is the next step, leading to multi organ failure and again to death.

    In a healthy body, nature can cope, BUT, people on the borderline need the assistance of antibiotics and sometimes a ventilator.
    THIS IS WHERE THE ENTIRE PROBLEM LIES. If the hospitals become overwhelmed, these people will UNNECESSARILY die.

    Unfortunately, governments cannot seem to grasp all this, and even the doctors who advise them may not be expert in respiratory illness.

    Then we get the scaremongering that 95% of people who die have a virus. IT IS TRUE, but it is not the CAUSE of their death.

    The sad fact is that without a virus epidemic, sick people (mostly cancer sufferers) limp on. Then a virus comes along, ends their life and creates a peak in the figures.
    2019 was fairly virus free and no new strains mutated. As a result, the annual death rate was unusually low. As you can now see it was the calm before the storm.

    As long as the health services can cope, tearing peoples lives apart, while destroying a countries economy was (and still is) COMPLETELY POINTLESS.

    I sometimes feel like tearing my hair out. :yum:
     
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    I think that if Vlad found a fly in his soup, he would blame Boris for not swatting it. :yum:

    Sorry Vlad, I just could not resist that one, :yum::yum::yum:
     
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    He’s not angry there’s just no Sizzler anywhere near his location.

    That goes for me as well the closest Sizzler is in Delaware which is like 400 miles to the south.
     
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    Coronavirus restrictions: Bizarre new wedding rule limits 20 members of bridal party to the dance floor


    Wedding restrictions in NSW have been eased to allow dancing three months after it was banned to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

    As a result of consistently declining coronavirus numbers, NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian said on Thursday dancing would be allowed again at weddings – but with a strange requisition.

    Weddings held in the state are allowed to have as many as 150 guests under current coronavirus rules.

    But when it comes to the dance floor, only 20 people will be allowed to let loose – while the other wedding guests watch on.

    And, those lucky enough to strut their stuff will have to be designated in advance by the bride and groom.

    “Bridal parties of up to 20 can be on the dance floor, but I stress, it is the same 20 – you cannot have a roster of different guests of 20,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    “It has to be only be the same, up to 20, who are part of the bridal party not just the bride and groom.



    Bizarre new wedding rule in NSW limits bridal party to dance floor
     
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    I am just wondering if I am the only one here who thinks we are just trying to dodge a bullet . All these rules various governments are introducing are just delaying the inevitable . I believe unless one is shielded that Covid will get you sooner or later . No amount of lockdowns will cure Covid .Covid is here to stay and we need to try and live with it . Vaccines are some way off and I am not sure who would want to try a rushed vaccine that hasn't gone though all its testing procedures. I believe , normally these could take as long as 3 years but are trying to be shortened .
     
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    Makes sense since I previously posted about the super-spreader wedding event in Maine with infected 176 people and left 7 dead in its wake.

    And now there was a bachelorette party in Rhode Island which is linked to dozens of cases, and is on its way to becoming another super-spreader event.


    Maine Wedding Linked to 7 COVID-19 Deaths
     
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    Coronavirus continuing to mutate, study finds, as US cases rise

    The Covid-19 virus is continuing to mutate throughout the course of the pandemic, with experts believing it is probably becoming more contagious, as coronavirus cases in the US have started to rise once again,
    according to new research.

    The new US study analyzed 5,000 genetic sequences of the virus, which has continued to mutate as it has spread through the population. The study did not find that mutations of the virus have made it more lethal
    or changed its effects, even as it may be becoming easier to catch, according to a report in the Washington Post, which noted that public health experts acknowledge all viruses have mutations, most of which are insignificant.
     
  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Percentage of the population with T cell immunity is looking to be double the percentage that are testing positive for antibodies. and the antibody tests showed 20 times the official number of cases in some regions

    Would explain why there is no matching death rate with this second wave in Europe

    France was back over 10,000 cases a day two weeks ago, but they are currently averaging under 50 deaths a day

    Whereas back in March it was only 5000 cases a day, with 1000 deaths per day


    Immunity to COVID-19 is probably higher than tests have shown

    Its looking to be about 30 times less deadly so far with this second wave in Europe, which means Sweden was right all along
     
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