12 Reasons To Disregard Christianity & The Bible

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you realize that wise men have spent entire lifetimes puzzling over the mystery of Life. may i ask how old you are, to have come to understand all of existence already? don't kid yourself.

what you've done is closed your mind to other options. i'm sure that wherever you live, christianity is rampant. it didn't tickle your fancy, so you've simply become anti-christian. there is more out there. maybe there isn't a god, logchopper. maybe there's a whole multitude of gods. maybe everything is predestined, maybe it's not. you don't know.

 

shhhh, it will be our dirty little secret

 

reason 16: they say do as they say or burn in hell but how can you be sure there is a hell






oh yea cause they say so

 

in a way you are exactly right. i live in kentucky in the middle of the bible belt and im just fed up with all the bullshit. and im only sixteen. but without bragging i think im smarter than most 16 yr olds. not in a making good grades sense, 9i do though by the way) more of a common sense way. but i dont understand all of existence and that is exactly why i said that. i dont want to waiste my time. i dont want to spend my whole life worrying about something and then it end up being a big sham. and thanks for bringing me to tears by the way.:&

 

dude, i made you cry? i'm very sorry.... i didn't realize i was sounding so harsh. i meant for that to sound like a friendly ribbing, not an insult. honestly, don't be upset because i said "you don't know", i meant it in the most honest way. i also don't know. i wonder if anyone knows?

the only point i was trying to make was that we don't know the answers, and if we "settle" for one philosophy over another simply because we don't want to be without a rulebook, we're only lying to ourselves. you sounded like you didn't like the christian philosophy, but instead of fully questioning it, you maintained it's truthfulness and resigned yourself to being rather unhappy with it. do you understand what i'm saying? perhaps the whole philosophy could be thrown out, even temporarily, and you could see what you could find outside of it.

my sincere apologies for upsetting you. since you're new, you probably don't know how we sometimes talk to each other in here.

with love,

sophia

 

OH NO!!! what you said didnt make me cry, it just brought back memories, thats all. you didnt hurt my feelings at all. im not upset with the religion per say, im just upset with people who twist it and turn it to make it how they want it. my father being one of them. i feel like i may never know the truth because of it, thats all.

 

thats exactly why i urge people to seek theyre own truth theyre own relationship & iunderstanding of the truth..i'm not anti christian exactly but like you i see how twisted it is or has become & how every sungle despicable act can be justified if you know which verses to quote

 

One word: EXACTLY

 

thats why i created that experiment thread to discus god without the "amunition" of quoted verse because basicaly thats how its used isnt it? like a weapom to enforse ritouseness
s far burdot is the only one who i think holds christian veiws who attempted to try it & i really respected that (but then again i dont think hes ever thrown a quote at my head either)

 

ohh that made me think of reason 17L constantly quoting the bible & trying to convert everyone sure does alienate you from tons of people who wouldnt mind being your freind if you'd just lighten up on the "your a sinner & will burn in hell" talk

 

What I embrace is a philosophy of Civil Hedonism and Minarchy. I do not disregard the need for laws to protect people from each other's fuck ups. However, I do believe that freedom should be allowed up to the extent of infringing upon someone's else right to live their lives the way they choose.

Civil Hedonism is enjoying yourself, maximizing your pleasures, but being responsible for your own actions and respecting others' rights to do the same.
I like to drink, but I never go past the limit where I feel I will "lose it". I control all my vices, even sexual ones (I have an outlet). I play mindgames with my own mind in order to focus.

You don't have to stop drinking or stop doing things you enjoy, if you do it responsibly. Otherwise, you are trading in a little pleasure for a lot of pain and that is a direct violation of hedonism.

Hedonism and Anarchy could be intertwined with RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONE'S OWN ACTIONS and RESPECT FOR OTHERS.

There is no utopia, but we could have a better life without the bullshit we deal with each day, by following those simple rules.

 

hi


whats minarchy? sounds interesting

 

Yeah because Jesus, he said that. He said "FEAR ME OR DIE BWUHAHAHA!!" He was all about fear man.

That mean ol' Jesus, alway praying for the innocent (and the guilty). Man, what a jerk. Oh, you said "preys on" not "prays for" or "praise for". I'll assume that you simply made a spelling error.

Well Jesus has authority, God too. But neither ever said that to be Christian you have to bow to some dude with a funny hat or a TV show.

Sure is. Galileo, Kepler, Issac Newton, Faraday, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln; none of them were Christian. Oh, wait a bit, they all were now isn't that funny.

I know plenty of Christians who aren't sexually miserable, in fact I don't know any who are. If perhaps you are sexually miserable then maybe you should find a better way to deal with it than blaming it on a religion of which you are not a part.

Because as we know relativism is all the rage these days; we wouldn't want to be behind the times now would we? Oooh no that would be bad.

There's that rotten ol' Jesus, at it again. Always encouraging people get in fights, steal things, start fires. In the gospel of Steve Jesus says "Blessed are the televangalists, for they make really good assassins."

Jerry Falwell is misogynistic, Catholic dogma is misogynistic, various protestant denominations are misogynistic. The Episcopalians are not misogynistic, neither are Quakers, Methodists, and quite alot of others. But since the correct definition of "Christianity" comes not from the teaching of Christ but from the ranting of Libertine, I'll have to conceede this point

See above, with the appropriate substitution of "homophobic" for "misogynistc"

It is if you don't try to take every law in it as universally and eternally applicable. In other words, taking laws mean for a people in a specific situation more than 2,000 years ago as applicable today is stupid.

Okay. So is every signle scientific field, but that does not make them any less valid.

Because we all know that ancient religions worshipped Jesus Christ.

I mentioned a similar thing in another thread, but it is also relavent here. You apparently get your definition of Christianity from people like Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps, and Eric Robert Rudolph. This is like getting your definiton of Socialism from Joseph Stalin, your definition of German culture from Adolph Hitler, and your definition of feminism from Valeri Salonas.

 

You seem to have tunnel vision, Professor, when it comes to the history of Christianity, oh, but wait those weren't "real" Christians, right? You seem to ignore the bulk of Christain teachings and only take what you want. The existence of the devil and hell are cardinal doctrinal tenets. Don't try to deny that your Lord spoke more of Hell than Heaven, that your Lord damned those who disagree with him, that your Lord failed to condemn slavery or racism (yet he is the "same" yesterday, today and forever)... "Love Me or Die and burn in eternal Hell", yes, is essentially the message behind Christianity.

Yes, Jesus did talk to himself. Millions of Christians still do. But, the history of Christianity is essentially a pain/pleasure ordeal. Do what Christianity says an "Viola! Streets of Gold!", fail to do it and, "Alas! It is the oven for you!" That is psychological torment--preying on the gullible. Hallelujah! Glory!

Really, prove it. Or is that just your opinion? Indeed, I am afraid it is.

But, were they "real" Christians? Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, pal. Sorry. Galileo was a "christian" because he was not going to piss of the Church with his SCIENCE TRUTHS and progress was RETARDED by the Church. No, sorry, the Sun does not revolve around the earth, the earth is not the "center of the universe", people.

How about what Christianity has done to women? Homosexuals? Masturbation? Abortion Rights? Premarital Sex? How much legislation has been passed? The Bible is full of rape and "taking of the virgins" COMMANDED BY GOD for the Hebrews to have. Nah! Christianity doesn't cause misery to a gay person! (a sodomite! ) They just need to stop SINNING and BE SAVED!!! Glory!

Sexism, racism, homophobia, freedom-denying, invasive drug laws have all been based on the moralistic/legalistic philosophy of our "Christian tradition". Each person takes Christianity/religion applies their own "interpretation". Face it, it's all about control. Christianity reduces morality down past the "golden rule" to an infringement upon peaceful, non-believers to live their lives. And the "golden rule" is much older than Jeezus.

So, I guess Jerry, the Catholic, and various other "denominations" aren't "real" Christians because your brand is not what they believe, huh? Your Christ had the opportunity (if he was God) to make a fucking unbelievable difference, but, alas, shit just got worse, didn't it? He is reduced to threatening his opponents with "hell"--a basic human defensive mechanism: "You don't like it, I'll threaten you!" Perfect Jesus, indeed.

The ending of your argument is the same message repeated.

Did Jesus, the "prince of peace" come to bring love? peace? Did Jesus believe in "family values" as taught by the Christians today? Or something a little different? Was Jesus tolerant of opposing views and differences? Did Jesus EVER resort to violence out of anger? No wonder he didn't fight back against the Romans, would you fight an army by yourself? Could you? If you were God you certainly could! But, wait, he had to send HIMSELF to earth to have HIMSELF killed to appease HIMSELF for his ANGER at US for choosing to have knowledge ...sounds schizophrenic to me.

Oh and the ancient religions have all your Gospel myths CENTURIES before Jesus. Check it out: http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm (just look at all those Saviours!!)

 

Yeah. I don't 'know' any cops. I just know God, and God controls everything so I don't worry about stupid stuff (well, sometimes I do, I was watching a movie last night and it creeped me out).

I think the main thing is me dealing with people around me having irrational fears because of lack of faith. You don't have (some of) them because you have been through enough shit to loose a lot of your fears, even though you 'don't know' that God is the one coordinating everything. Nothing like a good ass kicking to teach someone not to be afraid of an ass kicking.

Maybe someone who doesn't know God is doing everything can feel completely comfortable, maybe God can make them comfortable without them realising that something is looking out for them and that's why they aren't afraid, because of all the good that they have experienced. You might have a life of happiness and contentment without ever being aware of what is going on.

In my experience, those who do not rely upon God come up with lots of Rube Goldberg type scenarios to ensure their safety- it's almost comical except you can see the fear that motivates their actions. That's what I am talking about "stupid atheists and agnostics who take all these stupid precautions to protect them against the law."

I bet even a tough old head like you has a few irrational fears based on your lack of faith in God.

 

I had "faith" once, but I grew up.

 

Having too great of an ego interferes with your understanding of the holistic nature of reality (God), but it does not prevent your understanding of the fragmented nature of reality (this is made of this and that compound, this force acts upon this, if I do this, this is the next thing that is likely to occur, etc.).

 

"holistic nature of reality" ... Finally, the Kharakov "version".

 

lol... Like I said before, you're awesome