“Hospital staff are overworked” they say

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  1. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    That's exactly it. They went to keep that underclass going so they can feel better about their own pitiful selves.
     
  2. phil1965

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    Nothing at all I can get, the main problem we have over here is bone idle scroungers, kids leave school, they are not disabled or anything, they just choose not to work and go straight onto benefits and it's wrong, over the last 20 years or so we seem to have bred a generation that are workshy, a friend of mine is a teacher, she was asking a class of 8 year olds what they wanted to do when they left school. Some wanted to be nurses or police officers, or firefighters the list was endless, then she asked one little lad what he wanted to do his reply shocked her, "well miss, when I leave school I want to claim the dole like my dad" ! Where do you go with kids growing up like that, what happened to having pride in earning a living?
     
  3. hotwater

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    That's the exact reason I know how much money they get paid, because last year they were complaining of low pay.

    They wanted something in the area of $110,000 -$120,000 per year.
     
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  4. phil1965

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    One of the most ill thought out plans we have here is the 'national living wage', now I'm not saying that people should work for pennies, thats wrong, but there are a group of people who keep wanting the rate raised, without raising other rates, so curently we have a shelf stacker in a supermarket with no responsibilities, earning almost as much as an electrician who not only spent a lot of time learning the trade (5 years) but has to by a lot of expensive equipment, plus if we get something wrong we could end up in court and even prison. Then the same people who keep wanting the minimum wage increased start moaning that there is nobody wanting to learn a trade.
     
  5. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    That kinda stuff happened all around the US, but they've been very generous with benefits. The taxpayers are funding the welfare system while future generations are funding the covid economic relief. Socialism under the pretense of capitalism but okay. Keep trying, get a lawyer even. They'll have to help you if they're helping others.
    I say burden the system as much as possible, and maybe they'll have to rethink and redo things for a better future.
     
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  6. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Well put!
    Well, keep wiring anyway, it's still a lot more fun than sitting on one's arse. And there'll always be something to do. We're highly reliant on our electrical luxuries and fun devices. :)
     
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  7. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    yep. Now people are actually considering that the services managed by the government have been mismanaged perhaps? Most likely have... and saying to companies, you don’t Contribute enough. I mean, can you imagine how much money the government collected per month from 170 thousand employees at Atlanta airlines? Where is that money now?
     
  8. phil1965

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    To be honest I gave up on them, our system is totally corrupt, some years ago I was seriously ill, the doctor said I was unfit for work, I got nothing for 3 years, then they started paying me £40 a week, one year and 3 suicide attempts later they declared me fit for work and stopped my money, they've even said people with terminal illnesses are fit for work, it's a joke.
     
  9. phil1965

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    Yes, I take your point, but here in the UK the likes of branson register their companies offshore and pay no tax, now if you think of the amount of money they get off his staff in taxes, just think how much they'd get if he actually paid his share.
    A few years ago there was an outcry when it was revealed that due to underhand practises Starbucks had earned £3 billion pounds in the UK, yet had only paid £8million in tax, well below what they should have paid.
     
  10. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    ok I understand regarding offshore, Virgin has an airline in Nigeria for example. Nigerian virgin. Should taxes be paid to the uk government for that? I don’t know the ins and outs of it all, but he funded 11,000 UK-based entrepreneurs, with over £35m in pre-seed funding.

    also him living in the British Virgin Islands, this allows him to avoid being taxed on capital gains. But his headquarters is in London, so he isn’t avoiding taxes. Juston capital gains from my understanding.

    The Group also runs over 100 NHS services in the United Kingdom and the healthcare division of medical services group Assura after entering the British healthcare industry. They are also in on Australia’s healthcare too.. communications as well.
     
  11. phil1965

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    That's part of the problem, the healthcare, we have the NHS, it's free at the point of use, if I'm taken ill and need to go to hospital they will treat me without worrying if I can afford to pay for it. Our government want to abolish the NHS and make everybody pay, but what if you can't pay? Anyone in the USA will know how expensive even the most simple treatment can be. Our country is mired in corruption, we currently have a minister in government who is pushing to use certain computer stuff during the pandemic, it hasn't been proven to work, but he wants to use it and it's expensive. Interestingly enough, his brother has a contract to supply the gear, somehow if anyone else had the contract I don't think he'd be pushing it as much.
     
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  12. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    well it isn’t really free. The People pay for it. If the government is going to be in control of it, they should have been paying for upgrades and stuff as well. Have they been? So in comes companies that can afford to bring in things that the government is not paying for when they should be. You guys are in line with Canada in frees deducted from paycheques I believe? So when inadequate care is provided companies come in to provide it and the bill goes to the government. The government sets the prices that can be billed. The uS is not as bad as you think. People, every worker pays a small fraction, I think one percent for socialized medicine. Now they can take their pay and get additional healthcare as well. They pay less for private healthcare than we do in Canada for healthcare, which goes to the government. Yet the US get better care.
     
  13. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Our healthcare is so expensive because there's so many companies and middlemen involved.
    And because of the convoluted billing practices. And suing.

    Transparent up front published costs should help, as should a one-bill system. As would perhaps insurance company profits be turned back over to participants, salary caps for employees, and published numbers on money in and money out for all purposes. Getting away from suing when things go wrong and blaming the medicine for becoming hooked on it would save a ton.

    Counties where there's no insurance charge a small fraction for the same care. Now some of that is due to the smaller earnings of everybody but they're not funding big insurance companies either. Plus no big costs for malpractice insurance since they don't put up with frivolous lawsuits.
     
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  14. guerillabedlam

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    Repost of a vid VG posted in his thread



    Coronavirus UK: NHS workers slammed over TikTok coffin dance | Daily Mail Online


    Ambulance workers have been slammed as inappropriate over a TikTok 'coffin dance' video that went viral.

    The footage, posted on social media app on Tuesday shows a man apparently unwell, coughing in the back of an ambulance, startling workers who were reaching for life-saving PPE.

    Music then starts playing and it appears the workers are copying a 'coffin dance' meme that has become popular on TikTok over the last few weeks, as reported by the Liverpool Echo.

    On Twitter, one man said '...But to stumble across this video, mocking people with COVID19, calling it the coffin dance & stating this is 'morale'. 'Personally I don't see families being ripped apart as morale.'

    The ambulance service spoke out over the video and stated that the staff involved meant no offence by the video, but it had breached their social media policy.

    The video has now been removed from TikTok.
     
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  15. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    The brave men and women risking their lives on the front line of this battle against the invisible enemy...

    The ones who are seeing all this firsthand must be hardening to it. Probably a self-defense mechanism to keep from mentally breaking down, eh. I can visualize a lot of PTSD disability claims in the making.
     
  16. 6-eyed shaman

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  17. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Forgot the PPE.
    Or is that just for the entertainment portion?
     
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