Actually I don't think it's terribly unusual to date for some time while abstaining from sex until both partners feel ready.
I think this is why I am so confused on this topic and similar topics. A lot of times its the angriest women who are the most vocal.
From what you describe she sounds like an angry person. The only time I ever look at boobs when I am talking to a gal is when they have cleavage...
Why do I feel like if I initiate sexual contact for the purpose of sex then I am some kind of creep? Where does that message from society come...
Which is partially why I am asking about both the covered vs. the uncovered situation.
I don't know. Is it generally thought to be the case that relationships begin with casual sex? I would like some female input whether it's true...
Would some women like to provide some input?
Well do you think that many women who show a lot of their goods are comfortable with staring?
So If I am casual at the speed dating event it might lead to something casual but if I am more intimacy oriented it might lead to something more...
That's what I am afraid of communicating. Because it's like. "Will I be understood? Or will she be like "OH SO I'M A ONE NIGHT STAND!" Exactly,...
Thank you.... for giving me your perspective.. I still feel so awkward and so incredibly unconfident about doing these things the right way...
No, sorry bro you totally misunderstood me. I mean yes you can have sex and be in a loving relationship at the same time. I mean I am so horny...
I can't tell if your saying its wrong to be so upfront? And I mean in a subtle way. But maybe a less subtle approach isn't wrong either?
But in what sense is that "intention" already pre-established? Like people can want to have either long term/emotion or more casual physical...
See exactly! This is what I mean! I do want a relationship. That's partially why this is in the relationship thread. I am just a horny person....
Well yes, I sort of figure its like that. I mean so what then? Your intentions of why you are kissing her and trying to get into her pants are...
Well, that's your opinion. How do I know I'm not a case-by-case freak then? :(:confused:
I wander if it would be possible to get a second date after that if she said no to casual sex on the first date?
That's why I am asking about both breast (covered) and cleavage. A lot of people are not specifying in their answers whether they mean to refer to...
Well, okay but are you saying that they are asking to be stared at? MAMA do you wear clothes like that?
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