All Religions Are False.

Me? Sarcastic? Perish the thought!

 

Socrates, Hannibal, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Virgil, Jesus Christ, the emperor Hadrian, Gregory the Great, the Venerable Bede, St. Boniface (the English missionary to the Germans), Hildebrand aka Pope Gregory VII (who created the Roman Catholic Church as we know it), Abelard and Heloise, Joan of Arc, Savonarola, Erasmus, Leonardo da Vinci, Queen Catherine Howard, Lady Jane Grey, Mary I, Elizabeth I, Henry III of France, Queen Christina of Sweden, Newton, William III and Mary II, Charles II of Spain (famous only for what he did not do, including not having any heir), Alexander Pope, Frederick the Great of Prussia, Charlotte Corday, Alexander I of Russia, George Washington, Jane Austen, John Keats, Jane and Thomas Carlyle, Pio Nono, Florence Nightingale, Emily Bronte, George Elliot, Henry James, George Bernard Shaw, Vincent van Gogh, Lenin, Sydney and Beatrice Webb, Adolf Hitler, the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, Frieda Kahlo, Edward Heath, Nowell Coward, Anne Frank


-famous people who never had children. They exist as neurotransmitters in our head.

 

Hmm....the specific proof isn't showing up on my computer screen. Is anyone else having this problem?

 

No, I think it is. Why don't we do this.... you tell me what you believe as an agnostic, because I'm pretty sure I just explained the whole thing to you....

Be specific about what I didn't explain. I think I just said everything that a god was not needed to do. Didn't I?

What are you having trouble with? What are your beliefs exactly?

do you think that god created human beings? The Earth? The solar system? the physical universe? The fish? The stars? The mountains? The oceans?

He did none of this and I did just give you specific proof, not to mention further sources if you wanted to do your own research.

So be specific about what I didn't answer.

 

so you are writing a book and that is an excerpt from it......


it makes me want to cry....
if you believe that is a thorough and scholarly handling of the topic matter, it makes me weep for the fucked up education systems in the world.
I've written insults that were more intelligent and better worded.
I've penned trip reports that were more scholarly.

c'mon now, do you really expect anyone to take you seriously when that is what you have to offer?


are you in grade 5?


still waiting for this Earth shattering proof.
remember, you threw down the gauntlet, therefore the responsibility is on you to prove your position, and not just by saying "read these books".

 

dont spill me bro..
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WHAT PROOF HAVE YOU OFFERED????????

you obviously have no concept of the scientific process or what constitutes "proof" or that all of science is based on probabilities anyway and there are no absolutes, just probabilities and improbabilities.

it is your own fantasy/pop culture understanding of religion that is fucking your head up, not anything else.

 

I've given you proof a million times!

Right now, I'm almost considering the fact that you don't even know how to read!

No science??? Did I not quote 10000s of pages of science textbooks? Or did you even bother to look at those books and see what they contain?

I GUARANTEE I know more about the subject of science and religion than you.

I explained everything! Do you not know how to read? Is that the problem?

I think you just need to read those books.

Do you even know what the Permian Period is? The Ordovician? The Silurian? Do you know what the first organisms were that had centralized nervous systems? Do you know what a diffuse nervous system is?

Do you know what molecules make up a cell? That is EASY, they taught that in 9th grade.

And someone said "books with 'big' words"... YES!!! EXACTLY!!!! That is what I have read. The science textbooks that are the culmination of all proven human knowledge and you're going to say that I don't know anything.

I know about religions that you've probably never heard of!!!

Tell me the history and beliefs of Shintoism without looking it up right now? Have you ever even heard of Amaterasu?

Science is absolute!!!! That's the definition of it!!!! Are you using technology right now? Wouldn't have been possible without 1000s of years of knowledge. And please don't tell me you're going to discount all of scientific knowledge based on Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle!!! You might as well say that you are unsure whether you need water to live.

For example, read the book Essential of Geology. A geology textbook. Are you telling me they're just guessing??? Scientists do not guess. It is fact.

 

Where does love come from?

 

In answer to where does love come from..... you have to look in evolution for the answer just as in all things......

Human beings can love. Can chimpanzees? Do other mammals? Reptiles? Insects?

At what point in the evolutionary tree did love come to exist.

I would suggest somewhere in the cerebral cortex.

Insects eat their own relatives. So do some reptiles. Even some human beings have antisocial personalities.

I think everyone loves their children. Probably even insects.

Trees can't love. Neither can bacteria. Neither can fungi.

So to answer your question.... I don't know.

 

I wasn't speaking just of the Judeo/Christian/Islamic "God" (all the same thing). I meant all gods, including Zeus, the sun god of Egypt, Shiva, Vishnu, and all the rest.

Radiocarbon dating can date those fossils, though, and every dinosaur bone comes from between 251-65.5 million years ago (Mesozoic).


It has been conclusively proven that "god" did not create the Earth, human beings, or any of the stars in our solar system.

The only thing not proven is "who" put the energy (that was contained in the Big Bang) here in the first place, but to just attribute it to "God" is just guessing.

Regardless, he did not create human beings. Homo erectus, H. heidelbergensis, H.habilis, H. neanderthalis, H. ergaster, Australopithecus, etc. All have been found and dated by scientists.

 

And the "God" of (originally) Judaism, and then Christianity, then Islam is one and the same.

They use the same creation stories and it follows the same line of descent from Abraham, through Jacob, to Ishmael, etc.

Whoever says my knowledge of the facts is lacking is mistaken.

Have you read all those books front to back?

 

So "who" put that energy there to begin with could have been god?

I don't think anyone in this thread has disputed many of your scientific points. But none of it proves that god doesn't exist. I can't prove that any more than I can prove that the invisible flying spaghetti monster isn't real. Even if every scientific point you've made in this thread is 100% accurate, I can make the statement that every single thing that we know to exist...every galaxy, sun, planet...everything....exists in a small glass globe sitting on a shelf next to many similar globes. Maybe that shelf is in a house much like mine on a plane of existence that we can't even comprehend but one that is normal to it's inhabitants. You can be 100% accurate and it still doesn't invalidate my point even a tiny bit.

 

True, which is why you should read about "multiverse" theories.

And that is the ONLY thing that cannot be exxplained. But it DOES prove that the creation stories of the Bible are not true.

 

I would suggest wikipedia and an episode of "Through the Wormhole" about multiverses.

 

Well, I definitely agree that those stories aren't true.

 

And if there were a global flood just 6000 years ago or whatever, it would completely apparent in the stratigraphy and geologists would have noticed it a long time ago.

That is an adaptation of the Babylonian Gilgamesh story.

The modern science of geology not coming into being until the 1830's and then receiving a major make-over in the 1960s with the discovery of plate tectonics and other techniques such as radiocarbon dating.

 

Hey why are you saying like this ? Every religion is sweet and lovely

 

You'd be less of a target here if you would drop the superiority trip, mang

A lot of people here agree with most of what you are saying, you needn't be such a condescending ass about it.