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#61 Enlil6

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Posted January 19 2009 - 08:22 PM

so my moms birthday is today and she 55 well their another firend of mines and her bdays today too so how different is my mom to my firend


If they were born on different years, they will be drastically different. Planets will be in different signs.

If they were born on the same day and year, but different times and places, the rising signs will be different, and probably the Sun and Moon will be in different degrees.

If they were born at different times in the same city, then again the Sun, Moon, and rising signs will likely be different.

Rising signs change about every 2 hours, but even if they were born with the same rising signs, the charts will still be quite different, such as planets' house placements.

If they were born on the same year, day, place, and time, then that's just weird.

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Posted January 31 2009 - 08:19 PM

I met someone born on by birthday aug. 31 on 1988 like me! how different can we be?

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#63 Enlil6

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Posted February 01 2009 - 08:26 AM

I met someone born on by birthday aug. 31 on 1988 like me! how different can we be?


The time will alter some sign and planet placements - mostly Sun and Moon. Signs move from house to house roughly every two hours, and the planets with them.

Even if it was the exact same time, which is unlikely, the place will alter the sign placements somewhat.

I know in traditional astrology, five minutes can make the difference between a planet being strong or weak.

I make charts to time rituals. One of the key planets in every chart is the Moon. Often I only have a ten minute window - maybe 15 minutes to do the entire thing. This is because the Moon is so fast moving. It can make the difference between an ideal time to do the ritual, and a horrible one.

Take that idea to birth charts, and you can see why time and place matter.

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Posted March 06 2009 - 01:38 PM

I have been looking at some charts here lately, and have noted some aspects (both in transits and in natal chart) with midheaven, and some nodal aspects.
I am most interested in hearing what all/different things midheaven and nodes represent and affects from aspects and transits. Because aren't they considered spots in the heavens, as opposed to planets or moon.

Are these particular aspects/transits considered as important as, less, about the same or etc as others...I guess all patterns should be noted, yes?

Thank you for your time. :)

#65 Enlil6

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Posted March 06 2009 - 05:13 PM

I have been looking at some charts here lately, and have noted some aspects (both in transits and in natal chart) with midheaven, and some nodal aspects.
I am most interested in hearing what all/different things midheaven and nodes represent and affects from aspects and transits. Because aren't they considered spots in the heavens, as opposed to planets or moon.

Are these particular aspects/transits considered as important as, less, about the same or etc as others...I guess all patterns should be noted, yes?

Thank you for your time. :)


I'm not hugely into transits, but from most accounts, any angular transit is notable. The angels are the 1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th houses. Plus, these houses are usually the same degrees regardless of which house system you use except for whole signs.

The 10th refers to the public, career, important people, and so on. Traditionally this is the house of the mother, though in modern it's the father. I don't know why it was switched.

The nodes are problematic in modern astrology I think. Usually they are considered to represent karma, past lives, and things like that. How you are supposed to prove anything like that is beyond me. I also have no idea what use that could be in a transit.

In traditional, the nodes only affect planets they are conjunct with. We don't worry about aspects in this case. The north node adds qualities, and the south node subtracts qualities.

What this means is that the north node is conjunct a benefic, it adds good qualities. If it's conjunct a malefic, it adds malefic qualities. The south node when conjunct a benefic lessens benefic qualities, but when conjunct a malefic lessens malefic qualities.

So, you want the north node to be conjunct Jupiter and Venus, and want the south node conjunct Saturn and Mars.

If a node is in a house by itself, the north node generally adds benefic qualities, and the south node adds malefic qualities.

Hey if you're confused about these points not being physical bodies, then try getting into Arabic Parts. None of those are physical points, and there are dozens of them!

#66 Lynnbrowngreen

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Posted March 06 2009 - 10:01 PM

Thanks, Enlil -
What does the midheaven placement mean/affect? :)

#67 Enlil6

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Posted March 07 2009 - 07:16 AM

Thanks, Enlil -
What does the midheaven placement mean/affect? :)


Oops I mentioned it above, but I wasn't clear enough. The 10th cusp is the same as midheaven in most house systems - except for whole signs. It's just like the 1st cusp is the same as ascendant.

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Posted March 07 2009 - 07:39 PM

Oops I mentioned it above, but I wasn't clear enough. The 10th cusp is the same as midheaven in most house systems - except for whole signs. It's just like the 1st cusp is the same as ascendant.


Duh, I knew that! Thanks anyway. :)

#69 Enlil6

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Posted March 08 2009 - 10:07 AM

Duh, I knew that! Thanks anyway. :)


Just to make sure, was that what you wanted to know?

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Posted March 08 2009 - 02:26 PM

If nodes are supposed to be indicative of karma/"stuff" from past lives, etc.- is MC or midheaven indicative of mother, father, "regular" (ha) 10th house matters, or what?

#71 Enlil6

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Posted March 08 2009 - 07:27 PM

If nodes are supposed to be indicative of karma/"stuff" from past lives, etc.- is MC or midheaven indicative of mother, father, "regular" (ha) 10th house matters, or what?


Ah..

Well if you ask me, and you are, the midheaven (and 10th house) will deal with career, mother, and recognition. I don't subscribe to the nodes being karma and past lives. I think at the end of the day that info is useless.

If the north node is transiting your midheaven, I'd look for that area receiving something beneficial. If it's the south node I'd see it getting a hit. Of course if a node is transiting your midheaven, then the other node is also transiting your 4th house.

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Posted March 12 2009 - 04:51 AM

Hi All !

I would like to meet people with esoteric interest and share my experiences. I always had a desire to learn in depths regarding astrology and divination, and I have 1-2 years semi-professional experience with Tarrot fortune telling. I am very open minded and I would like to learn more respectfully from those who have more professional working experience in this field. Thought I'm an amateur, I take this very seriously and I give all my best to further develop my skills, help and guidance is appreciated.

#73 Mrdude46

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Posted May 11 2009 - 06:17 AM

I'm becoming interested in astrology and tarot,
where do I begin?

Thanks
Dan

#74 Enlil6

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Posted May 11 2009 - 07:25 AM

I'm becoming interested in astrology and tarot,
where do I begin?

Thanks
Dan


If you want general modern astrology, try "Parker's Astrology".
If you want psychological, try Dane Rhudyar's books.
If you want traditional, get William Lilly's "Christian Astrology".

#75 JediMindTricks

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Posted May 11 2009 - 10:42 AM

William Lilly's "Christian Astrology".


Deuteronomy 18:9-14

Micah 5:12


thier for thier isnt a "christian" astrology.

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#76 Enlil6

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Posted May 11 2009 - 02:50 PM

Deuteronomy 18:9-14

Micah 5:12


thier for thier isnt a "christian" astrology.


I'm not sure what you just said.

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Posted May 11 2009 - 10:57 PM

I'm not sure what you just said.


look it up. am basically saying thier ISNT any "christain" astrology. God HATES IT.

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#78 Enlil6

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Posted May 12 2009 - 07:12 AM

look it up. am basically saying thier ISNT any "christain" astrology. God HATES IT.


Dude, that's just the name of the book. It was written in the 17th century. There's no Christian doctrine in it. Look it up.

#79 JediMindTricks

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Posted May 12 2009 - 04:29 PM

^^ . then Y would he name it that? can you help me out?

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#80 Enlil6

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Posted May 12 2009 - 08:21 PM

^^ . then Y would he name it that? can you help me out?


Safety. He wrote it in the middle of the English Civil War, and he was against the throne. You can't piss everyone off at the same time.

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Posted June 27 2009 - 01:10 PM

Safety. He wrote it in the middle of the English Civil War, and he was against the throne. You can't piss everyone off at the same time.


What about George W Bush?

#82 Enlil6

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Posted June 27 2009 - 07:21 PM

What do you mean?

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Posted July 28 2009 - 04:33 PM

So yeah, I've always been quite skeptical about Astrology, but I went to Astro.com, put in my birth, sex, location details and thought the results were extremely accurate. I still don't understand half of it, though. so I guess I'm going to have to go into more depth.

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Posted October 31 2009 - 03:32 AM

www.astro.com

Enjoy ppl! :butterfly

yep, astro.com is great for doing your chart.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/ has great info about heaps of astrology too.

#85 MichaelJE

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Posted November 18 2009 - 06:30 PM

I met someone born on by birthday aug. 31 on 1988 like me! how different can we be?


With your Moon in Tauraus (if that's your real birthdate) you'd be more a candidate for astronomy, than astrology. But there's also water there: Venus in Cancer, Mars in Pisces. So there's potential there for both.

Environmental, societal factors play a role as well. Your religious upbringing and parental influences. They're not to be overlooked in deciphering someone.

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Posted November 18 2009 - 09:27 PM

With your Moon in Tauraus (if that's your real birthdate) you'd be more a candidate for astronomy, than astrology. But there's also water there: Venus in Cancer, Mars in Pisces. So there's potential there for both.

Environmental, societal factors play a role as well. Your religious upbringing and parental influences. They're not to be overlooked in deciphering someone.


I sent you a PM (private message)

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Posted June 20 2010 - 01:06 PM

Can someone have a look at my chart? Is it bad or anything?
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#88 Enlil6

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Posted June 20 2010 - 06:21 PM

All charts have good and bad elements. I really don't have time to do a full analysis, but someone here might. I never do them online since they take a really long time. That's why I charge for it.

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Posted November 26 2010 - 10:37 AM

How about looking at the Rising, Moon and Sun Signs of a person together. I have learned that by looking at the traits from these 3 areas we can get a clearer picture of the person we are relating with. The energy from the Elements is a strong indicator of the Behaviors the person will present so by looking at the Signs from these 3 areas we can get a truer look into the energy and Behaviors behind what makes a person act the way they do. This also helps us to know that we do get influenced from the traits of the Sign(s) we have within 10 degrees of the Cusp. Try it it's valid and it really shows what drives people.

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Posted December 03 2010 - 01:28 AM

Hello . our3minds. im kinda new to astrology. i apprecaite your response.if you read my answer to my forum "cancer gemini" question, i worked out my rising sighn is aries.
but being born in south-africa at 830am,am i correct to say,the time i was born,it was 1030pm, to find my rising sign Aries based on the table i found on a canada based website.
so im rising sign aries,moon in taurus and sun cancer. find it interesting,yet dont know what it all means




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