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#31 XBloodyNailPolishX

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Posted March 28 2008 - 06:13 AM

beer always sounds great, doesn't it? (:

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Posted March 29 2008 - 09:19 PM

what does it mean when a person has a kite on their chart? as in a cross (with one leg longer like a crucifix) with all points connected in a perfect kite, tilted to one side on the chart?

here's the site where i found my chart: http://astro.cafeast... States&lang=en

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Posted March 30 2008 - 03:37 AM

what does it mean when a person has a kite on their chart? as in a cross (with one leg longer like a crucifix) with all points connected in a perfect kite, tilted to one side on the chart?

here's the site where i found my chart: http://astro.cafeast... States&lang=en

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I'll have to let a modern astrologer take this question. Traditional doesn't handle patterns like this.

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Posted April 06 2008 - 06:34 PM

I've been studying Sun Signs, Rising Signs, and Moon Signs a lot lately... and I was really wondering:
1. what is someone like who has all matching sun, rising, and moon signs?

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Posted April 15 2008 - 04:44 PM

i've got a question what is up with all the differnt signs I thought everyone had just one.

and if I was born on march 7th at 12:03 AM then what are mine?



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Posted April 15 2008 - 05:29 PM

When one says he's a Pisces, it means that the sun was in Pisces when he was born. In professional astrology, we look at the signs the rest of the planets are in too, for example the moon sign shows the emotional make up of the person, Mercury's sign shows the communication style and thinking patterns, etc... and that's not even talking about the aspects between the planets
You have a Pisces Sun and Moon, an Aquarius Mercury, a Scorpio ascendant
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Posted April 15 2008 - 06:21 PM

wait how could I have the same sun and moon sign? how could they be at the same place at the same time?



oh and does the year, my name, and WHERE i was born have any bearing on anything?



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Posted April 16 2008 - 02:42 AM

When one says he's a Pisces, it means that the sun was in Pisces when he was born. In professional astrology, we look at the signs the rest of the planets are in too, for example the moon sign shows the emotional make up of the person, Mercury's sign shows the communication style and thinking patterns, etc... and that's not even talking about the aspects between the planets


To give the traditional perspective:

In modern astrology, the chart represents the person's personality, psyche, and psychology. Traditional astrology is predictive, so only the first house, which has the rising sign, shows the person's personality. The ret of the chart shows what the person will do and what will happen to them.

There are 12 houses in the chart, so you will generally have around 10 or 11 signs there. This is because sometimes a sign might be in-between the houses, but we still look at that, so in a way all signs are used, but only those signs on the cusp of a house will be said to rule that house.

The planets will also each have a sign. So on your chart your ascendant (1st house) has a sign, your father is represented by a sign, your mother, your siblings (if any), your job, friends, enemies, children, illness, and even death. We can also from your birth chart, find out about almost anything to do with you and people around you, so we can delineate your aunts and uncles, grandparents, your father's finances, your friend's secret enemies, and so on.

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Posted April 16 2008 - 02:46 AM

wait how could I have the same sun and moon sign? how could they be at the same place at the same time?


Once a month the Moon and Sun are in the same sign since the Moon moves through all the signs each month. Recently the Sun and Moon were conjunct (same degree and same sign) on April 6th.

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Posted April 16 2008 - 12:47 PM

so wat are my other houses/signs?



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Posted April 16 2008 - 03:24 PM

so wat are my other houses/signs?


It depends on the house system. However in all the systems, assuming your ascendant is Scorpio (traditionally ruled by Mars), your 10th house (career, honor, recognition) will be Virgo (traditionally ruled by Mercury), your 7th house (marriage, relationships, litigation, open enemies) will be Taurus (traditionally ruled by Venus), and your 4th house (father, land, property, end of life) will be Pisces (traditionally ruled by Jupiter).

Interpreting this can get quite complicated, so I'm not getting into that here.

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Posted October 08 2008 - 11:18 PM

What is the significance of a high concentration of planets in a person's 12th house?

Specifically, I have my Neptune, Uranus, Moon, Mars, Saturn & Venus hangin' out in the 12th house.

Capricorn is the sign on the 12th house. My ascendant is also Capricorn.

Really, any answers/perspectives would be much welcomed -- I'm pretty new to astrology, so I'd like to get some reference points to start out with, and the 12th house seems to be a major theme in my chart.
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Posted October 28 2008 - 03:13 PM

What is the significance of a high concentration of planets in a person's 12th house?

Specifically, I have my Neptune, Uranus, Moon, Mars, Saturn & Venus hangin' out in the 12th house.

Capricorn is the sign on the 12th house. My ascendant is also Capricorn.

Really, any answers/perspectives would be much welcomed -- I'm pretty new to astrology, so I'd like to get some reference points to start out with, and the 12th house seems to be a major theme in my chart.


Unfortunately this means you will die any day now. :) Kidding.

To the extreme you might be living a very lonely and isolated life, where any effort you make seems to go nowhere.

On the plus side you might be extremely sensitive to suffering in the world, as you may also be suffering in private. You can have a chance to show much compassion to others in this life. You may also be drawn to spiritual or occult areas of life. 12th house emphasis can mean you may or may not be confined in an institution such as a hospital or even prison if you are of that disposition. The main meaning behind this house emphasis is meditation, spirituality and isolation. This is because 12th house planets don't have an opportunity to shine very brightly. Introversion may be the norm here.

If the rest of your birth chart shows outgoing tendencies or positive aspects to 12th house planets, you can counteract the negative connotations of a full 12th house. It is not neccessarily a negative thing. Western though clashes with 12th house virtues. Be you own ear, and always try to help others to alleviate suffering. Watch out for hidden or subversive enemies as the 12th house can indicate secret enemies and secret suffering.

A full 12th house can show great creative gifts. You would have to have grounding which you say you do; Capricorn.
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Posted November 02 2008 - 07:30 PM

that's the rest of my chart -- as a novice to astrology, the main thing that I noticed was the big party in the 12th house, but maybe there is significance to the loner planets as well?

that description is dead-on.

I've always been kind of a solitary person, ever since I was very young, and have always had trouble seeming .. relatable to people in my age group. my childhood and early teenage years were marked by frequent hospital stays due to various health issues. and I've always been rather sensitive to the spiritual nature of things around me.

on top of that, I'm a french horn player and I love to write -- been winning various competitions since grade school and will hopefully continue to study the both in the rest of my educational career.

another question -- what is chiron? I see it there in my chart but have never heard of it.

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Posted November 02 2008 - 07:34 PM

wow that is A LOT of capricorn

and you have mercury in aquarius, *high-five*



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Posted November 02 2008 - 08:06 PM

wow that is A LOT of capricorn

and you have mercury in aquarius, *high-five*


haha yeah.
it actually makes a lot of sense. before I looked up my chart, or even knew what a chart was, I was baffled by the pop-astrology definition of a Piscean sun person. I thought that was all there was to it, so was kind of neat when I saw everything else the stars were doing when I was born.

according to this site I was just looking at, Jesus, George Harrison and Bob Marley also have their mercury in aquarius.

right on.
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Posted November 02 2008 - 08:18 PM

here's mine

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My moon-sun-venus conjuction in the 4th house makes a lot of sense to me.

I've got a pretty good dose of capricorn also, but I have no clue what capricorn is all about. I'm still trying to figure out my chart.



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Posted November 03 2008 - 08:48 AM

From a traditional perspective, Mercury is very strong in a nocturnal chart. Also, if Mercury is between 0 and 7 degrees Aquarius, it gets an extra bump since it's dignified by terms.

There is a point system to measure a planet's strength in traditional astrology. You shouldn't be too strict with it, but it gives you an idea. Here's an illustration of Mercury in different parts of Aquarius:

If Mercury is anywhere in Aquarius in a nocturnal chart, he automatically gets 3 points. In a diurnal chart, it's 0. Neodude's chart is nocturnal.

If Mercury is between 0 and 7 degrees, he gets 2 more points (dignity by term).

If Mercury is between 11 and 20 degrees, then he gets 1 point (dignity by decan).

So if it's a day chart, and Mercury is 8 degrees Aquarius, Mercury gets 0 points. A night chart, 3.

If Mercury is in a day chart at 5 degrees Aquarius, he gets 5 points.

If Mercury is in a day chart, and is at 19 degrees Aquarius, he gets 1 point. In a night chart 4 points.

This way you can get an idea of relative differences of Mercury's placement in a sign.

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Posted November 03 2008 - 12:28 PM

so are nocturnal and day just like ... if you were born at night or during the day?
hah I feel so foolish.

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Posted November 03 2008 - 08:14 PM

No that's ok. Sometimes even astrologers get confused. Your chart is nocturnal, so your Mercury is essentially strong.

Beware though. Your Mercury is 11 degrees from the Sun. This is a debility called "under the Sun's beams". It's sort of a mid-level debility that is very common with Mercury. Yours is on the verge of leaving this condition, so it's not that bad. It's sort of like running out of a burning house.

Mercury is problematic in traditional astrology since it's never more than 25 degrees from the Sun, so it's easy for it to get into a bad spot with the Sun. Mine is worse than yours.

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Posted November 03 2008 - 08:28 PM

kacie, your chart is fabulous! lol that's awesome.

how do you determine the weight of aspects. like what would rule your chart. I have several clusters and am not entirely sure how I would determine the ruler of my chart.




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Posted November 04 2008 - 08:44 AM

how do you determine the weight of aspects. like what would rule your chart. I have several clusters and am not entirely sure how I would determine the ruler of my chart.
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There are two major methods, the traditional and modern.

The modern method usually just has you taking the ruler of the ascendant. I think there are some other methods, but I don't remember right now. In that case, your chart ruler is the Sun.

There are two traditional methods, both of which are mathematical.

That later method from about the 17th century has you taking all of the planets and figuring out which one is stronger. Without going through all of this, it's probably Venus, though maybe Mercury.

The method I use is the Arabic method where you take the positions of the Sun, Moon, Part of Fortune, Ascendant, and position of the new or full Moon prior to birth. You have a point system and tally them up and you come up with the most influential planet in the chart. Yours is Mercury.

I could have figured yours out without math. Your Sun and Moon are in Gemini, as well as the new Moon before your birth.

I like this method better because it's more individual. It's impossible to say "well maybe it should be X" or fudge the data to fit a preconceived idea. It is what it is.

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Posted November 04 2008 - 07:04 PM

cool, thanks :)




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Posted November 08 2008 - 02:50 PM

I guess instead of making the thread, I should have asked here: When you have all of your planets in a concentrated area of your chart, how do you make sense of what is dominating your chart, and the influences? Is it the house that they are in, the signs, or their proximities to each other, or something else?

Also, do you have a link to the tallying system you were speaking of earlier?



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Posted November 08 2008 - 06:20 PM

Also, do you have a link to the tallying system you were speaking of earlier?


I don't have a link since I can't think of a site that has it. It's mentioned in Guido Bonatti's 13th century book "The Book of Astronomy" and to a lesser extent William Lilly's "Christian Astrology". Bonatti got his info from Arabic sources, and I'm doing research exactly where.

The logic is easy enough:

A planet in its ruling sign 5 points
In exalted sign 4 points
In triplicity 3 points
Terms 2 points
Decan (AKA face) 1 point

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Posted November 17 2008 - 12:15 AM

what is chiron?
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Posted December 29 2008 - 08:25 AM

Pls do not post in this thread, start your own pls.

http://www.cafeastro...oninhouses.html


Are a mod? I actually started this thread for little questions like this.

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Posted January 05 2009 - 01:42 PM

ive been reading up on this thread. and i am very new to astrology. also very interested.

all i know for myself is my sun sign is a Leo

born on July 29th

So if you could give me and any information on my chart and what everything means or post any links of good sites that explain all this, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted January 13 2009 - 10:21 PM

I have a question:

do the position of the stars when youre born really mean a goddamn thing thing?


It's now my practice to simply report posts like this.

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Posted January 19 2009 - 07:42 PM

so my moms birthday is today and she 55 well their another firend of mines and her bdays today too so how different is my mom to my firend

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