Yoga and drugs

Discussion in 'Yoga and Meditation' started by xSCARxFACEx, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. Ray_killeen

    Ray_killeen Member

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    Consider how the temporary effects of recreational drugs influences the brain/body with superficial experiences in illusion and yet the yogic sciences is considered an antidote in clarity for the primordial drug Maya; the grand illusion of being born, living in sorrow, fearing death, endlessly seeking pleasure etc. etc.
     
  2. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    You cannot make a blanket statement that is true about "recreational drugs." They have different effects and not all, I would argue, generate superficial experiences in illusion. You are not wrong necessarily, but it is interesting to note that CERTAIN drugs produce experiential results very similar to certain descriptions of moksha-consciousness.
     
  3. Chodpa

    Chodpa Senior Member

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    no such thing as moksha consciousness
    by definition of which there cannot be one
    by tradition by which there is no tradition which says that term
    by experience of which a moksha is a liberation from something
    a liberation from everything has no term and so doesn't exist in terminology to be described
    meditation instructions in general warn against all flashy experiences so if one is having flashy drugged meditation experiences it is off point
    meditation is for moksha, and therefore cannot be dependent upon drugs, or no moksha can be present
    meditation, yoga, on drugs is for beginners only
     
  4. Ray_killeen

    Ray_killeen Member

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    The very nature of these types drugs (entheogens - psychoactive substances used in a spiritual context) are to stimulation not bring the mind to a stillness, unless one has prepared themselves through years of disciplined training, physically/vital energy/mentally, under the guidance of an experienced practitioner (tantra, shamans etc.) who has been cultured through thousands of years of trial and error, experimentation would be extremely dangerous, certainly not recommended for the common persons. If one has not already come to a certain inner space of extraordinary awareness and balance the encounter could become unpredictable, taking one further instead of closer to reality, not one step towards expansion of consciousness. It’s not the drugs themselves rather the influence they have upon the mind and subtle energies flowing through ones system and perchance you do activate or open unprepared energy pathways one runs the risk of short circuiting or overloading the nervous system, whereas the weak minded simply become entangled with the pleasurable side effects of sensory stimulation during intoxication.
     
  5. jokersex69

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    once i did salvia before, then did a meditation. i felt really good, in touch with god. like everything was gonna be ok. and flashes of insight came to me
     
  6. Chodpa

    Chodpa Senior Member

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    and then what happened
     
  7. Fairlight

    Fairlight Banned

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    During my early twenties I used to meditate daily for up to two hours per session. During one of these sessions I awakened Kundalini.It was around this time that I went to a party and took a puff on a marijuana cigarette.I was instantly transported back to Kundalini,in an instantaneous flash of incredible surging white light and sparks up my spine and up into my head.I cannot explain this experience,but it was obviously connected to the marijuana cigarette.Whether it is advisable to mix psychoactive drugs and yogic practices I don't know...As they say,try anything once except incest and morris dancing.
     
  8. Chodpa

    Chodpa Senior Member

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    once upon a time
    i got high
    and thought
    god was mine

    and then what happened
     
  9. Fairlight

    Fairlight Banned

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    What happened to me is that I had a nervous breakdown and couldn't get into meditation much anymore.I've recovered from my breakdown but still can't meditate deeply these days.I can only manage breathing meditation and mindfulness practices now,especially when I'm out walking,which I enjoy.
     
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