Why Is War Normal And Acceptable?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ginalee14, Aug 24, 2014.

  1. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    to be a warrior is normal . can you be a warrior for peace ?
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Sure, when you defend.
     
  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    your missing the obvious, geography.

    America is bordered by two allies and two oceans. The vast majority of the world where there is relentless conflict are those areas always in contention of ownership and bordered by enemies.
    A terrorist attack in Europe on the same scale as 9/11 would of course garner the same world attention, yet the act itself would not be perceived as being as "ballsy".

    Think about it, it does take a pretty big set for a foreign power to attack North America.
    and I'm not saying that from any "patriotic" vantage point, just simple common sense.
    It takes a concerted effort to plan the logistics and execute an attack against N. America, whereas in the majority of places with conflict in the world today, you can bean your enemy in the noggin with a rock.
    Then take into account the global resources in $$$ and allies America has and it becomes easy to understand that part of the global reaction was at the audacity of the terrorists.
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    No more than you can screw for virginity. Peace comes when what you think,say, and do are the same.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    He's not asking how someone gets peace ;) He was asking can one be a warrior for peace. And the answer is yes.
     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    A warrior makes war. Are war and peace the same? Can we align our desire with peace, yes.
     
  7. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    To defend is to attack a proportion you yourself have determined out of all probability.
     
  8. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    a warrior does not create war .
    you likely have heard of the Rainbow Warrior , which is a boat
    sailed by a crew bold and courageous .
    and then
    once I asked a young man what he would do after graduating
    from Luther College ...
    " I shall return to Botswana and serve as warrior for my tribe ."

    a Warrior for Peace ?
    is always at the ready , is prayerful ,
    and the skill of the peaceful warrior
    is creative action
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Can one fight fire with fire? To save some good old green or create a fertile piece of ground? Yes. It's an age old farming technique.
     
  10. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    ISIS does that. [​IMG]
     
  11. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I bet if you talk to various members you will find conflicts of interest.
     
  12. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    I'll let you do that, and report back to us. If you survive. ;)
     
  13. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    A warrior is a person specializing in combat or warfare by definition.
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    To be fair you're the one that claims with certainty that what they think, say and do is the same ;)
     
  15. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Why do you state that as if that makes it impossible to be a warrior for peace? Because it doesn't. Words can form many sentences of which some can have opposing meanings that seemingly conflict with eachother but that doesn't always mean that one is not right... :p
     
  16. thedope

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    How about I let you provide evidence that they are always consistent in thought word and deed. It is not my claim that they are but it is my experience that conflict reflects uneven consideration on the face of it. They are inconsistent in their view of humanity which is why some merit death in their eyes.
     
  17. thedope

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    I do it for the sake of clarity. So that we don't have words that are identical with opposing meanings and to avoid confusion. Peace exists where the conditions of peace are met. What does it mean to you to be a warrior for peace? What kind of effort is required?
     
  18. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Pass. I don't fuck with people like them.
     
  19. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Granted it might be easier to fuck with people like me.
     
  20. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    I wouldn't be so sure...

    http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2011/08/07/why_did_japan_surrender/
    "In recent years, a new interpretation of events has emerged. Tsuyoshi Hasegawa - a highly respected historian at the University of California, Santa Barbara - has marshaled compelling evidence that it was the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender."

    “Hasegawa has changed my mind,” says Richard Rhodes, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of “The Making of the Atomic Bomb.” “The Japanese decision to surrender was not driven by the two bombings.”

    "Japan was not poised to surrender before Hiroshima, as the revisionists argued, nor was it ready to give in immediately after the atomic bomb, as traditionalists have always seen it. Instead, it took the Soviet declaration of war on Japan, several days after Hiroshima..."
    ( bold added)
     
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