Why Is War Normal And Acceptable?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ginalee14, Aug 24, 2014.

  1. thedope

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    No wit involved. To report on your condition is to counsel or advise on your condition. In this way we teach and learn of ourselves and each other and we do so without ceasing. We are made of information.
     
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  2. thedope

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    Better stop cooperating
     
  3. ginalee14

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    I'm inside-out and backwards.

    Your use of counsel is in reverse from the standard but now I'm sure of your meaning. I never wore a mask, though many have tried to weld them to my face. I was once accused of "walking around in my spirit". Yeah? So? lol
     
  4. thedope

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    As far as saying you are not an animal, it is far more helpful to say you are a biological creature than to say you are a dick head.
     
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  5. storch

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    How would you negotiate with a country that initiates war knowingly based on lies? More to the point, when a country is run according to the interests of banks, Wall Street, and corporations, what interest would such a country have in negotiations to avoid war?
     
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  6. ginalee14

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    The word jumped out of my mouth, almost as if somebody else said it: dehumanize. I said, yes. That's quite it. To be dehumanized. Well, that's tragic (in my eyes).

    Wow, that's one thing I think not one person has ever said about me (dick head). No, I'm not a dick head. Funny though, my high school guidance counselor's name was Richard Brain. They called him Dick. One day, they called him by name over the loud speaker, after the end of the school day (but I was still around). "Dick Brain, call the office".
     
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  7. thedope

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    Well if someone else is speaking for you I would say that is dehumanizing. When you say it's tragic in your eyes it's because there is no joy in your verdict. When say dehumanizing to say biological creature you mean separate from nature and that is one of the delusions that man could get over.
     
  8. ginalee14

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    Dehumanize was a response to my perplexity about why 'humans as animals' happens to be such a personal issue for me. I'm satisfied with the response I got.

    Going back to Karen_J's position of the animal kingdom: their violence is not limited to feeding (ex. fierce competitions for dominance). Just like virgin queen honey bees literally war to the death to be the Queen, violence is certainly there. I don't think humans are animals but .. if it were true that humans really are no more and no different from animals .. then human beings have no ability and no capacity to not war. And that is something that doesn't sit right with me. There's something different (isn't there?) about us humans. No? Is it all choice, or not? Maybe not, then.

    But the sort of weaponry that exists on this planet is not vital to existence. To me, it seems like a form of sadistic entertainment.
     
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    Humans, Homo sapiens sapiens, ARE a species belonging to the Animalia kingdom. Wars are sometimes made necessary when impositions become unacceptable.

    I don't view other species to be more violent than human species, but population density can produce quite an effect on behavior.
     
  10. ginalee14

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    Yes, I understand that humans are not amphibians. lol
     
  11. Anaximenes

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    Besides skipping the democracy part, which in the passing of time can expect the concepts of greed and population expectancy disagreeable with the presence of nature as science has represented them, I will get to the cultural idea of war and peace, and the passing of time that way. Yes, democracy and democratic ecology can show up the events in history as remarkably graceless and substantially devoid of sensibility towards the Being in the Self of essentially good meaningful action.

    People's actions don't correspond often with the ideally described good deeds they were supposed to co-exist as. But in the case of War it is the explanation of 'War' or Reign of Terror as the deed of culture failing peace that really exist analogously with the Harmony of God being Nothing important for Human Culture: failing Morality for the democracy.
     
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  12. ginalee14

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    So basically, dominance and ass kicking all the way.
     
  13. Anaximenes

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    Well. as the old adage went: if we'd believed God and the ten commandments things would be different.
     
  14. ginalee14

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    It's interesting to me that people seem to damn near worship logic but in reality, logic itself fails often enough. In other words, even if all the world followed the ten commandments .. we'd likely still be a screwed up bunch anyhow.

    http://youtu.be/E2IVCyFt2Os
     
  15. BlackBillBlake

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    Obviously we are different from other biological forms as we have minds and language. We can store information from generation to generation in a way other creatures can't.

    But if you look at the negative things in human life, they seem often to stem from the animal side. Aggression, desire for dominance etc. Another important way in which we are different is that we have the potential to control the animal nature in us through reason, or even through spirituality.
    It also means that we are capable of organizing ourselves for the purposes of mas violence in ways no other creature can.

    Traditional Christianity says God made humans in between the animals and the angels. We can go either way. There's a bit of both in us.
     
  16. Piney

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    Throughout human history, war is normal, this is not a judgment, just a statement of fact.

    It has nothing to do with race or politics or creed.

    It is not pleasant, just another nasty fact of life on earth.
     
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    The significance of a terrorist attack is relative to the people attack. The 9-11 attack on America is important to Americans because America was attacked! I'm sure a terrorist attack on the Eifel tower would be significant to the French. Americans won't give a fuck about that!.
     
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    was not for nuclear weapons.. a conventional war would still be going on in the Pacific.
    Some seemed to have been in love with conventional warfare..
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Always found that a turd argument so people can excuse that there was bombed a whole city of civilians. Also rarely hear something like that said by someone else than an american. Sorry, it just is the case.
     
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    War is always the tool of the greedy.
    Defense is what peaceful people do to protect themselves from the greedy.
     
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